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The Locus of Decision Making. December 31st 2017

Could you give some insight into the relationships which exist between the brain and what we term  the mind and the controlling consciousnesses? The flow of sensory information and the analysis of same and the subsequent process and location of decision resulting in intention and action?

So let us take any form of large organisation within the physical. A large corporation, an Army, a government department or even an organised large social event. You have layers of responsibility which generally take the form of a pyramid. You have those at the bottom who usually have a simple routine task to perform, they are chosen for and are content to execute their responsibility and know at each time that their action is correct. They do not have any uncertainty as to their duty as their decisions and actions largely follow a prescribed procedure which they can follow in the knowledge that what they are doing is correct. So you may as well say they are “programmed” to carry out their function.

Then you get the next level up where there are those who are instructing the ones below. At that level they too have their own set of rules and their own set of reactions to anything slightly untoward that comes up from the first layer. Now if it is something that is totally out of the ordinary what do they do? They refer it to the next layer, and so on and so on.

So take your physical instrument, take all the activities that go on within the body and see the coordinating sensors (centres?). You see, and you are well aware of this one, that the heart is absolutely necessary and it receives instructions to beat fast, slow or whatever is required. It receives those instructions from a certain area and you have yet to find out where those instructions come from in terms of the brain, but would you say that most of these are basically programmed reactions? Yes. So when a demand comes in there is, what you would term, an automatic reaction to satisfy that demand. Now this would be the same whether it is a demand for oxygen or adrenalin to provide instant energy, fight or flight whatever. You can work your way up to the conclusion that most of the physical body is indeed, as many in the medical profession look upon it, a form of machine as the process by which things are carried out can be established.

When it comes to looking at it in that fashion then you have to think to yourself that “this machine was built” and its operating system was built as well. Now most operating systems work because of the programs that have been inserted and the fact that the decision making pathways are established. You can see this in all large organisations where things are passed up the line until a decision is handed down. As an example, you could look down and think “I could jump off this one foot chair” and not even think about it, just do it. But put that up to three feet and what happens then? Then you stop. Now is that decision being referred up? Because why have you stopped? Because there is uncertainty.

Uncertainty and fear.

Correct. But the uncertainty and fear arises because you are waiting for a decision as to whether or not to do it. Where is that decision being made? You think that you are thinking about it, “shall I, shan’t I”? So, as regards the majorities, is there a consensus? At that point?

No. The decision is before everybody.

Yes. So there is a part of the gestalt saying “yes, we can do this” and another part saying “No, I don’t think we can”. The debate is going on at that stage. Yes?


So where do you think that is going on?…………………We’ll answer this. First of all you say that the brain can look at the past history of jumping off a three foot tall and it can think that, “yes, I have been able to do this in the past” but lately, especially as you get older, it is not quite so easy and you don’t land as lightly as before. So let us go back over, because everything is stored, and you think of all the things that may be relevant. You look at what you are going to land on, “am I going to land on concrete”? Now you wouldn’t think at all about jumping off three foot into water, would you?


And you wouldn’t worry too much about jumping into a pile of hay. But faced with jumping onto concrete you would stop and think. You would be going through the options. Same thing applies. Where it comes up that, “that would be safe” it is because we can basically calculate the impact force and decide “yes, we can handle that”. But when it comes to the concrete then one has to say “well someone has to make a decision here, do we do it or don’t we do it”. Now of course other possible routes of descent are explored, “can we climb down”? But what if that is not possible, then we have got to do it haven’t we?

So the majority says, “well, we can’t stand here all day, let’s do it” and the rest say “well on your head be it” and so you do it. Generally you will survive quite adequately, another time you might hurt your foot. Another experience undergone.

This is all very well for the physical but what happens when you are looking at a complete change of lifestyle, shall we say, a major decision which may need to be made on the basis of values, emotional values, satisfaction values etc. Would you think that is a province of the brain as the brain is a physical instrument?

No. It would be a consideration for the mind.

Correct. It would not be as the brain is part of the physical instrument. Now the mind is a language construct, really, for your understanding. These are not discrete and separate entities. The whole thing is seamless and interconnected but from the point of view of your understanding it is easier for you to think that the mind is separate as such. You can view them as totally interconnected but decision making is done at different levels. You must remember that the same energetic makeup prevails whether it is physical, mental or, what you would term, the consciousness. For the purposes of this discussion let us say that they are compartmentalised.

So the mind is more concerned with the analysis and presentation of possible courses of action, shall we say. The implications of taking one path or another. The mind is mostly focused on the interaction with the brain. Interaction with the physical instrument, the physical focus. It is looking at not only what has happened to the physical but it has picked up over the years what has happened with everything it has come into contact with. So the mind is a repository of knowledge, it is where to go to dig out your facts. Let us come back to your computers once more. You could say that your computer resembles a mind. You go there to find out things. You don’t go there to have a decision made. It is used as a consultant to get information and advice to expand your knowledge and therefore it may help you in your decision making. The mind is a repository of knowledge and experience and the experience of others that you have taken on board. From that repository you can compare the likely outcome of decisions as evidenced by your own prior experience and the experience of others facing the same challenges.

Now when you reach that area of thought you will find that the constituents of the gestalt are very much involved with the mind. Most of those focused into the gestalt, due to being lost in the drama, are not aware that they are experiencing the decisions of the majority. They see themselves as the “I” so they feel that the decision is theirs to make and so these opportunities are presented and generally a course of action is decided upon. Some decisions you make are right and some are not but when you are in the moment of doing this you may make a decision where you think “well, I’m not too happy with this one but I’ll do it, I just feel I’ve got to do this”. Now what is happening here is that you are not part of the majority at that stage. The majority are deciding to do this but you are unsure, but because the thought of the majority is so strong you think it is your thought but you still feel some doubt, you are not certain but you go along with it anyway and then you may find out that it was the right thing to do after all, in which case there is a sigh of relief that you made the right decision, “I am glad that I made that decision”, but you actually didn’t. If it goes wrong, “I wish I hadn’t made that decision”. You will still take it as being your own personal aspect because that is the whole point of the physical.

If you look at all this process it is a hierarchical process except that in the end you do not have a singularity or a small board at the top. You have the whole organisation voting, all those who are interested in the overall direction of the instrument.  Those who are part of it all but who are only interested in the experience they are gaining from focusing within a particular area of the instrument may not be bothered. For example, you have your doctors and scientists here studying the body all the time, now what has been happening with these physical bodies over the millennia, they’ve changed. They have changed in shape, size and performance, so would you not credit it that those minds of your scientists and doctors are simply the minds of the consciousnesses that are interested in perfecting the instrument. It follows that the way to find out how a heart really works is to put part of your focus into the heart muscle or any other aspect of the heart operation. A greater appreciation is obtained when you become part of the action. Your doctors would, if they could, tap into a particular part of the body so that they could receive all those sensations and so understand what was going on. In general you cannot, but you can (as a consciousness) if you decide that that is your area of interest, at that stage you are not interested in what the instrument is doing or its life. You are only interested in the workings of that particular organ or whatever happens to be your focus. It is of no interest to you what is going on outside of your area of focus. You may have a focus in one or many other lives but if you find enjoyment in designing and perfecting the operation of physical instruments then as above so below.

The same applies to everything in the physical area and any other reality for that matter.