How we experience lives without a physical body. What life is like in no space, no time. January 25^th 2019

It has been three years since you launched the website. Who would have thought it would have taken three years before you decided to convert the material on the website into a book, let alone go to print. As we have said before, you weren’t given the thought. So now you have and you have. You have your electronic books published and within a week or so you will have your print versions published. (Amazon Kindle Books, 1. Conversations with Higher Consciousness. 2. Reality and You.)

Now, needless to say, considering the size and scope of these books, that is quite an achievement. It is not so much an achievement for us as it is for you. You have had to put the hard work into this book whereas it is quite easy for us to see the whole as, we have laid out so elaborately, everything happens at once. So we see the whole picture and therefore it is easy for us to make sure that everything we pass through the instrument is compatible with the overall thrust of the actuality being portrayed.

So yes, of course, we are quite pleased with it. It’s been quite an enjoyable ride really and as you can see from the spread of the website (has been accessed in 119 countries at the last count) the work will spread even more as the books become read and recommended to others. So yes we can all now sit back and watch the progress.

Reality may not only be stranger than we conceive, it may be stranger than we can conceive.                                                                                                  J.B.S. Haldane

Some time ago, you mentioned that you may be able to further expand on the realities that exist and the possibility of accessing those realities without getting lost in those particular domains, dramas. Have we reached that position?

As we have said before, using the language of the physical, it will be quite difficult to describe realities that are far divorced from the physical. It would be quite easy to describe semi- physical realities with different conditions as experienced in those realities. We have alluded to some possible examples before.

When we get further away from those realities you must be in a position to be able to, let us say, observe or understand from the point of view of a bodiless or instrumentless perspective and a far more interconnected perspective. It is difficult to provide analogies because there are no exact physical analogies to which we can allude that you can actually experience from the point of view of a body. We have to get into mind and into imagination. Probably the nearest sort of reality we can compare with would be these virtual realities that you can experience through your electronic media because effectively you will be able to, at that stage, stand off, shall we say, look into the reality, experience the exhilaration, the fear and, should you be engrossed in it sufficiently, even the emergence of love and desire as you identify with the image and feeling that comes across to you.

In some of those realities it will be a matter of you projecting an image of yourself that may not be of a physical image as you have at the present time because that reality will not have physical bodies within it. So let us say e.g. that you have an image such as that on a computer screensaver. Now there are some beautiful images on there with wonderful motion and quite attention holding capabilities. If you project some such image and another enjoys that image and feels drawn to it and remember you will not just be projecting images you will be projecting feelings. As we have said before, when you send a thought to someone else that thought comes complete with the qualities, attributes, of the information pertaining to the sender of that thought. Once you make the connection then you are, unless you wish to hide away, allowing the one you connect with to view your thought net, we might say. To understand who you are. Do you understand?

Yes.

Therefore the connections you make, you are immediately aware whether the other, we can term it consciousness, is of like mind and whether you feel comfortable with that like mind. When you feel comfortable with that like mind the thoughts will, let us say, move backwards and forwards between you with rapidity and so you can then join together in discussing, imaging or, as we have said before, having your coffee overlooking Capri. You will feel a sense of comfort, companionship and warmth. We won’t say love because we don’t wish you to give the connotation of the physical love that you experience at the moment, it will be that sense of soul mate, shall we say, which may give you a better idea of the feeling.

You will have these connections all over the place. You will have so many people where you will say “Ah, that feels good, this feels good, this feels good” and you will be embarking on all these different little experiences with them, not necessarily just with one but in groups. Now this is exactly what you are doing at the present moment only you are focused in physical reality but can you imagine being able to do this without having to see a body? As in a telephone conversation you cannot see a body but you can be completely comfortable with the person on the other end even if you haven’t met them before. Something in their voice, something in the way they talk, you feel “that person I think I could get on with”. Yes?

Now expand that to where you know you can get on with that person, you haven’t just heard the voice, you know all about how they think, what interests them because you are entangled. You have made the connection and you are both entangled. If you are happy with that then you can go enjoy things but of course we are coming into this area where basically your two information banks, shall we say, are now effectively merged in that you know your own feelings and you know the other’s feelings. This is the same as those who have an NDE experience, they are aware of the feelings of the other person.

Once you move away from the physical bodies you will know the other’s feelings and you will know whether you wish to have further consort with those gestalts or not. We are trying to point out to you that the bodily image necessity will be dispensed with because you will simply know. It will not matter, you can change if you wish to say ‘let’s both have a new image and let’s both see’ but in general it is unnecessary because you don’t need any images. But you may wish to create a joint image of a wonderful view. Now we had to put this over before because you wouldn’t be able to understand if we said right now, join me in a joint imagination, this wonderful screen image, computer screen image of a rainbow, swooping up and down rainbows, to refer to a previous analogy. So, we both imagine these wonderful rollercoasters of colour and then we both get on, let us say, we both place ourselves in the position of being able to experience the drops and the rise and the turns and the accompanying music with that. So in much the same way as you dance to music then you can do that which we have just described and the same feeling will come and of course you can add in singing, if you want the sound of your own voices, if you wish to have voices.  You will hear the sound but you won’t need ears to hear with. You convert the thoughts to your language at the moment, but then again you will not need to convert the thought to language. You may do so for a while after leaving the physical body but you soon realise that is unnecessary because no matter what language is spoken it will be the thought that you receive and that thought will be as a, we can only say, feeling rather than expressed in language, but the import of that thought will be exactly the same. Yes?

Now, have we given you some idea?

Yes thank you.

Right, now so…….. as you are aware you can create any form of experience that you desire, so, you may decide, as we have said before, let us have a sword fight, I’ll be a centurion, or whatever and you be a gladiator, you have a sword and a shield and I will have a pike and a club let us say, and we will see what we can do and see who comes out the victor but of course you and I will both be fully aware that this is only make believe and yet we haven’t given ourselves any particular strength or advantage in the particular instrument that we are using to conduct the battle, so we can still have our uncertainty and excitement. So, that is one area, but there again we are looking at a pastiche of the physical.

Now, you have to work with us when envisaging these things so that you can endeavor to think of yourself as having left the body and now you have unlimited potential and then try to access the ideas that are floating by and open up to where you allow in ideas of a non-physical nature and see whether you can comprehend those ideas. You have a problem in that you have to remove yourself from the analytical judgement of the physical but it can be done. You can say that this is somewhat like a crazy dream and yet you can look at this and say “but I know that it isn’t a crazy dream, it is simply the creation of my own imagination”. Yes?

Yes.

It is possible. It may be crazy from the point of view of the physical but it is certainly not crazy once you leave the physical. Whether that gives you any particular satisfaction in indulging in these flights of fancy is moot but you have to do this in order to maybe come across those areas that surprise you because until you open your mind nothing can get in. Do you understand?

Now switching over to the business of trying to analyze the non-physical in terms of the physical is something that is virtually impossible. You can go down to your Planck lengths, you can go down to your superstrings, and of course once you get there, as you posted the other day, you have to imbue those strings with intelligence and consciousness and then you start all over again from the, we won’t say the Big Bang, but from the background, the coalescing consciousness and its desires (formed?) into an objective reality which you can understand in a physical reality. Now try to imagine that the intelligent strings are quite happy communicating with each other in, let us say, informational imagination. Can you understand what we are saying? In other words you would have what you would call pictures going backwards and forwards but occupying no space and yet, to those intelligences, they are enjoying a reality that those pictures portray.

You would call that a virtual reality because you have yet to realise that your own reality, is, a virtual reality. Although many now have realized this, and that existence is merely experiencing infinite realities.

The next question is, through reductionism but still looking at it from a Newtonian perspective we are down to this tiny amount, because that is what, let us say, the marriage of Newtonian and quantum theory is, that, although everything is entangled and connected, you still have to envisage it in terms of a string, whatever that may be, a tiny little wave. You keep imagining it in terms of something that you can actually behold in one form or another even though it is still, for you, something that you cannot see, you cannot measure, you can only imagine, but your mathematics will say, this is possible.

Now 100 or 200 years ago, wherever you want to start, you didn’t have this theory and you didn’t have these tiny little strings, the theories weren’t out there. So what is the next theory that is going to come along? We are having to talk at the present moment in terms of your theories because we can’t take you to an area of which you have absolutely no comprehension of whatsoever. So we take you down to the limit of your present theoretical projection and say this little superstring, for your purposes at the moment, is a unit of awareness. You can apply that to the material that we have transmitted so far, but as we have just said, imagine these pictures going backwards and forwards and the reality being experienced by these tiny little strings.

You asked if we could go further, well we have gone further. Previously we have been saying that you need a gestalt consciousness, you need many (awarenesses). We also said that the awareness can access the memory bank, it can tune in to anyone who is still in the body, or out for that matter, and experience what is going on because it actually isn’t having to manifest anything. It is just tuning in to an information stream.  We have said before that your gestalt consciousness and all the ones in it are broadcasting all the time, because they can’t but do so. As they see and hear etc. it (that information) is entering their thought net and therefore it is there for all to see. You could call that a broadcast. Yes?

Yes.

In effect you are saying that my site is open for everyone to visit and of course your site is connected to all others but the connection is such that it has to be activated. Once we get down into this area then it leads you to the logical conclusion that none of these realities exist in any objective form whatsoever. Would you agree?

It certainly is possible that all realities are virtual realities and we simply get lost in the drama and believe that what we are experiencing is a material reality.

The actuality of all realities is simply just an exchange of images. Purely an exchange of images between, let us come back again to your strings, and so, how many strings do you want? Do these strings require space, or don’t they require space? Now, we are using the word ‘strings’, but of course once you get to consciousness, we cannot describe consciousness any more than you can. We simply know that we are. We know that we can imagine, we know, what you might call ‘see and hear’. We know that we can receive communication from another, join in that communication and converse, communicate, experience everything that your own sensory perceptions are aware of and other sensory perceptions that you are not at present capable of experiencing. But just the same we do not have this impression of space because we know that the space that we do appear to inhabit is simply imagination. So we are not aware of space in the same way as we are not aware of time, as you see it. Because you look out and think that it is ‘out there’, and you cannot really come to terms with the fact that it may be ‘in here’. There is not only nothing out there but there is no ‘there’ to be out.

That leads us all back to the same thing, “well, there appears to be a lot of us but are we all, we can only use your language again, in the same space”? But if there is no space what does this mean? Therein lies the rub. We are not meant, at the moment, to understand and so, as we have said before, we simply know that we are, we understand what we can do, we know that we continue to exist, and therefore, we watch the ideas that come by and then we decide “we’ll have a look at this, we’ll have a look at that”.

In the same way we will come back to your light and dark. Sometimes it is “well, let’s try this” because by now when you are away from the physical you realise wholeheartedly that this is all simply, imagination. It is simply a play act. One can just say “you do this, I will scream and yell, my puppet will try to fight back but die and then we’ll try something else”. Once more we will refer you back (to the analogy of) to the puppets and the puppet masters. You would have no problem, as you have seen before with your beach side Punch and Judy, in playing out some relatively horrific scenarios because you know that when the show is over everything is restored to as it was before and the experience is simply put aside. Nobody is left with the trauma of that experience. It is just transitory, you might say, in the moment. It is purely a transitory feeling.

Now we may go further down this route but it is really going to be a repetitive area and so further information will come forward as we go along now and questions and connections start to come in from those outside. You may have the odd query that arises from reading into other people’s speculations but in the main it will be further expansion or explanation, shall we say, of the material already transmitted.

This article was in the Daily Express today 14th January 2019.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1072080/universe-hologram-holograph-science-news-leonard-susskind

So now we are realising that time is not fundamental it is a construct. The interior surface of a balloon is 2 dimensional. Other scientists, including those at Fermi-lab, I believe, hypothesise and are trying to prove that the 3D Universe we perceive arises from a 2D background. You may remember stereo gram pictures which look like white noise until you focus at a certain distance and then you perceive a 3D image therein.

So, is the hologram being projected onto the 2D interior of the balloon and if so what is creating the projection? We must assume some form of intelligence. The same applies to  simply focusing  with intention or using the appropriate senses to explicate the 3D image from the infinite potential of the implicate as contained in the 2D background.

The next step is to question the notion of space once more.

No time, hologram ok. No space, new theory needed!

A last thought, could each tiny string be conscious and intelligent? If so then the unit of awareness as described by realityandyou  could explain the creation of the 3D if we hold to the notion of space but if it is all imagination then we would probably all agree that imagination does not require space.

Now apply a Big Bang Theory analogue and imagine all the superstrings compressed into an infinitesimally small point, which appeared from where, The Void? So, no space, no time just intelligence using imagination and how has that been classified through the ages.

Comments pleeeeeeease.

Conversation  with our son Steven who passed in 1994.  Jan 2019

Thanks for that personal advice. Is there anything else?

Life is good both for you and for me and for all of us. No matter where you are there are things that take your interest and so all the time an idea catches your eye, takes your fancy, even if it is a small thing or a day to day occurrence just like making the chocolates. They didn’t have to be made but there was the enthusiasm “Yes, let’s make those because they are enjoyable”. Same thing with the raspberry cake. There are things all the time that are enjoyable. Now you must parallel that with what’s happening here, we do the same sort of thing. We look and see what so and so is doing and “I’ll go over and see what’s happening there and join in with that”. So you go over, obviously that just means looking, focusing in.

Activities, as you can imagine are not greatly different to those in the physical when you first leave the physical. You tend to mix with those on a certain level who, because they enjoyed it in the physical, then go back to enjoying it in the non-physical. Because they now have the feeling, the memory, the experience, of what it is like to be on the stage in that particular activity and although you can now enjoy the activity again you know that you are creating the props and everything else whereas in the physical you were not aware of that. That doesn’t mean to say that you can’t enjoy it just as well.

Now when you put your CD on you are creating the music. The act of putting the CD on, you create the music that you enjoy. You are not actively producing the music, what is the difference? The only difference is that here you can actually produce the notes you wish to hear, but why do that when somebody else can produce the notes even better than you can? They understand the ins and outs of music and therefore they can produce sounds that you wouldn’t even think of producing because most of the sounds that you produce come from memory and are the product of other minds that composed that particular piece of music. So you will still listen to others, but there again you may challenge your own capability to think up the variations on a piece of music.

Just as you allow yourself to move to the music on the dance floor then you, if you try to understand how notes fit together, can vary the tunes that you whistle or sing and the notes that go there. This is an area that requires just as much practise where we are as it does where you are. You have to understand music and how it fits together.

Life is continuous and when you move from one to the other you hardly notice the difference and when it comes to understanding that then of course there will be this “Well, why stay here, why not go”? On the other hand, you think to yourself “I’d rather stick around for this, I’d rather stick around for that”. But of course it is no good saying “Let’s start speaking and let’s get the majority to say what is going to happen”, because you are the majority, you are part of the whole. The majority thought is your thought. Don’t think that you are separate from the majority because most of the time you are agreeing wholeheartedly with the majority. You are not a single person outside. When you think, the thoughts are being produced by the majority. You cannot set yourself apart and still be part of it, you are either with it or you are not with it at all. As we have said before you may feel that when something is not going to work out that well it is of course easy to say, from the point of view of trying to explain, that you are taking a decision that you are not really comfortable with but once more that is still the majority. The majority is taking the decision that it is not very comfortable with otherwise you wouldn’t be experiencing the feelings of the majority.

It is very difficult for us to put over to you that you are only experiencing the majority because whichever way we look at it, while you are in the physical you still think of yourself as a singular and it is extremely difficult to see yourself as a [product of a] multiple.

So when we are explaining things, if we keep coming back and say to you “this is all you are at the moment” then we have taken away your sense of “I” completely and yet that is not true because you are living all these “I”s and you are still yourself but as we have stressed before, you cannot stand outside yourself. So you just say, in the end, “This is how I feel, this is what I want to do, this is a life or activity that I wish to join at the present time” and you just let it carry on.

“Mum”?…   Hi.

How are you Steve?

Always, always, always happy. Always good, no problems, no challenges, avoid the challenges, as I said before, just have a good time. No need to ask how I am because there is no doubt. Are you enjoying yourself, are you happy and the answer will come back “Well of course I am”, because what is there to be unhappy about? No problems, do whatever you like. Contact, be with, look in, see what is going on and yes maybe “I wonder what is going to happen there”? You can see to a certain degree what is happening in the immediate future but you are also, again it is sooo difficult for anyone to explain to you that you are all together all the time. How difficult it is for me to say that you are here anyway, mm? Yes. Because you feel the sense of separation, but I don’t feel the sense of separation so what have I got to be unhappy about? Yes.

People I have loved in this particular life are with me anyway and we are doing one or two other things but once more I am not aware that I am doing those until I focus in them even though I do know that I am doing several things because I know other people and I know that if I know them and that I have feelings towards them that we are both focussed into some other activity. Therefore that is where we retain the feelings of connection from. As you can imagine, “I know you from somewhere, where I don’t know I’ve forgotten”. Mm? Yes. I know that face, I remember that voice. It is a long time ago maybe but there’s no time, but it’s a long distance ago if you take frequency and the lives of different frequency.

So, once more, nothing to be unhappy about. Perfectly happy.

You have just had all your advice for living and as far as I can tell you from here your particular little soap opera is going to go on for quite a while yet. There will be the usual ups and downs along the road but there is no ending in sight at the moment and so we haven’t got any party preparations going on. And it’s a question we are all highly interested in what’s still happening. It may seem mundane to you but even watching the changes in the weather is different if we care to look in.

It’s a… it’s a show! Mm? Yes. We don’t have to deal with things we don’t want to deal with here and so to pop in and see how you are contending with things you have no, or you think you have no control over, then it’s nice to just view these things now and again. No different to you viewing on the television, we view in much the same manner.

So you have been viewing what’s been going on in the family?

Of course and elsewhere and other things. Whatever took our interest when we were in the physical, you still retain an interest if it floats by. Especially if you had thoughts as to how it should be or you found certain aspects of the physical quite exhilarating, amazing, awesome then it is quite interesting to see. Volcanoes going off for example are still something that are still “well look at this”. Mm? Yes. You get an email or a message on your phone, whatever, a small video and you look at it in passing and then you discard it. Yes? For the memory. Well we are the same here. The ideas, it’s not just ideas; the ideas, the events, the happenings are all over and when one resonates you take a look, but that’s all.

So how would you decide whether to have a physical life if you didn’t know what is was about at all? You wouldn’t just say “Ah, I’ll just jump in over there” because the idea wouldn’t have grabbed you. You had to have a feeling about the idea in the first place? Yes. And the feeling had to come from either prior experience or from something where you absorbed all the multitudinous aspects of the proposed life and say “that was overall a pretty good feeling, yes, I’ll do that”. Another one would be “ooh, that wasn’t a very good feeling, I’ll think I’ll give that one a miss”. But it comes not as a detailed review and a weighing up but just an overall feeling because you can see everything that is going to happen in a blur, let us say, all coming to you at once, not sequential, it all comes to you at once like taking in a large jigsaw. Instead of being able to look at each little bit and piece you get the general impression. Yes? Uh huh. So, “that’s a nice picture, or, there is something about that picture that jars”. That is more what it is like so this is why you will take a life that overall has a pretty good feeling because the overall intensity, the overall resonance fit with you. Whereas there are one or two bits in there that were pretty nasty but they simply didn’t have the volume, shall we say, to detract from the sound as a whole. There is a discordant note here and there, but in terms of the overall production it was let go.

So anyway, my turn to be able to put over some, you might say, knowledge and I’m in a good position to do that now of course and so quite happy at times to sort of sit in on Dad’s chats because I can add bits in here and there. Like we did things together in the physical we can still do things from this end together as well.

You’ve got no need to worry about “Tine” either. “Tine” is in decent condition and she will look back on her life at the end of it all and say, “well it may not have been everybody’s cup of tea but I basically pleased myself, I had very little to worry about and although there were times when I would have liked a bit more companionship on the other hand there were no downsides. There was only some, let us put it, elevated moments and some flat moments. There were no moments of plumbing the depths except for when I went over. But overall she will look back and say “that was quite a pleasant life, it didn’t cause me terrific amounts of angst and anxiety”. Of course that was what was chosen in the first place any way.

As for me, well, as has been told to you, someone has to go sometimes to shape the whole thing up so that routes are followed which wouldn’t have been followed if these things hadn’t happened. The play has to be organised in such a way that others, you might say, craftily engineered the events so that the outcome is to their satisfaction. You can say that we acquiesced to all these things and your books will mark the passage of time.

“Chucky” is having a happy life. She has got her child and that is something she has treasured above all else and she is living her life to the maximum love experience, you might say, rather than the material experience and in many ways if you look at it then all of us didn’t have much in the way of material ambition and yet you, Dad, were driven from an early age to remove yourself from the living with restricted means and be able to do what you wanted to do. To do that you had to get yourself into certain positions and the money was necessary. But we didn’t have to drive ourselves for money and we were able to turn ourselves to looking at other aspects. Once more we come back to the fact that this is what is chosen. Now just as “Tine” is able to do roughly what she wants to do, eschew certain relationships so that she doesn’t have the downside then you must say the same thing with “Chucky”. Chucky” is not bothering to match her peers in terms of houses and cars and I am sure you would agree that she is leading the life that she enjoys and she is doing what she wants to do, she is not doing what doesn’t give her pleasure. Would you agree?

Yes I would agree.

And so what is wrong with that? Then, hard for dad to understand but there you go, and it’s one of those things that are part of what you might say the learning experience and when you have been of a certain motivation then it is hard to see the lack of motivation in others because you think that motivation should be there and you can’t understand that there is no need to be motivated in that fashion. If you are motivated to sit under a palm tree all day and just nod off and just eat when you need to eat and then socialise when you need to socialise, then how would you feel [about] that, as a life wasted or a life chosen? You talk about retreating into bliss, bliss is whatever you care to think of as suiting you.

That’s right.

Bliss can be just feeling the warmth of the sun and letting yourself relax, forgetting the bodily feelings, not worrying about this needs doing, or that needs doing and letting go. That is difficult to do if you surround yourself with an environment that requires constant maintenance for you to keep it in the manner in which it gives you pleasure. Mm?

Yes.

So once more the bliss must…. still difficult to explain because you have joined… you are part of a consciousness grouping that is highly motivated. Mm?

Yes.

And so it is hard to…  in fact all the time you wish to stay with it you are part of that highly motivated group. The only way to leave it will be to leave it. Mm?

Yes.

Change focus and so you just have to say to yourself, well yep, I am in this bus and this bus is driven at quite a pace. Mm? I see that other bus over there and it is stopping here and stopping there and admiring the view and having a convivial time whereas this bus is still rushing from place to place. Unfortunately, you can’t change buses. Mm?

Yes.

You can’t be in both buses at once. So to leave your present bus you have got to get off and ask to join the other bus and then of course you will lose all contact with the bus you have just got off. Yes?

Yes.

And so all those that are in the original bus will then miss you and so that is a pretty good parallel for what this is all about.

Love you.

Love you Steve, lovely talking to you.