All Experience Family Life in Full, Whether In or Out of the Body
Miscarriages 18th March 2019
As you all know, we had a number of miscarriages. Just wondered if you could let us know anything about that please?
Now, if you think this through for yourself, you realise that there was an intention. And therefore, with that intention had to come what you will have termed, ‘a plan, a pattern, a blueprint’.
And so, then, the machinery was set in motion to manifest that blueprint. And that blueprint was such that it would carry the physical appearance of the two sets of genes but also it would be carrying the intentions of the gestalt that is forming the blueprint, and going on as to which events and how the life will be conducted within the reality that it was entering. As we have said before, things don’t always go according to plan. Yes?
And so, if you find out that something isn’t working quite right, or else even if, in the construction of the vehicle, some form of trauma happens or the composition, which can happen, of the gestalt suddenly finds a better deal to go on with then they may switch. But, as we have said before, once a pattern is created, it exists, it carries on. There are always those who wish to explore the possibilities of that pattern, which is why they focused upon it in the first place. And it got to that stage in manifestation. And as we have said again, there are many, many areas in which that pattern can be manifested. It may not be manifested in the physical, but it may be manifested in some aspect of what you would consider to be non-physical. Can you understand?
So that the same play can be enacted within a dense physical reality, a, what you might call a gravity-less physical reality or through various gradations to what you consider to be a spiritual reality, for want of a better word. Yes?
So, the script is still, for some, some part of the gestalt for those who are really interested in that one. It is still able to be seen through. Now, you have read about many times that the children who die might stick around with the parents and still be part of the family. You’ve seen that the gestalt can focus through many other gestalts as well so that the parent, for example, can see through the eyes of the child, as we have said when we referred to planting trees for 150 years’ time. So, you can keep contact all the way through. You have also read about others where the child still wishes to be part of the family. That means that the gestalt still wishes to try to be involved there. Now you have to realise that you have to take this whole scenario in, not just what is happening in physical reality. You certainly are aware that the higher consciousnesses together are, let us say, one step ahead, but still in parallel. Now, we haven’t spoken about this before either, but, you can see that these parallel universes could exist through said graduations of frequency reality, to put it another way, and the same play could be acted out in all these different areas. So, once more, look at it another way here with another very simple analogy. You can put this play on in New York, dressed as such, appropriate music, appropriate fantastic theatres, full orchestras, all the rest of it. But you could put on the same play with the same message, same meaning in any part of the world, but how would it be presented? It would be presented in the terms of where it was. If it was in an extremely poor area, it may be just with a whole group of people sitting around watching the actors portray that particular play just on a piece of grass or in a little compound.
And so, now take that, what have you got here? You have the same thing going on at the same time, with the same storyline but being enacted in different places. But the same storyline can elicit the same reactions etc. And so, we take this in terms of view of, let’s say, what you can perform on a stage in New York eliminates, for example, travelling in jet planes etc. It is mostly an interaction between people and props that are used on the stage. So, you can easily see that that is roughly reproducible basically anywhere. But your wonderful armchairs may be replaced by wooden stools. But the expressions, the words, everything else can be the same. And so, the feeling the audience would get from it and the feelings the actors would get from it are roughly comparable. Are you ok with this?
So, now we have been rather long winded as usual with this but can you see, how that once started, then the children you think you will never know, have been there all the time?
Yes, I can understand that. My understanding is that the reason that babies miscarry before the three months is that there is actually something wrong which prevents that fetus from continuing because it would be too deformed or internally wrong.
That is one belief. We have just said there could be a reason for no further interest in it from many, many aspects. Certainly, there could be something wrong, but there may not be anything particularly wrong. It may be that we have come up with a better plan. It is all imagination, remember, you are not killing anything. It also could be, as we’ve just explained, ‘Well look, I think this one would be better off in so and so reality’. Now, we are running all these at once. We are exploring all the possibilities. And remember you have all your other gestalts that are interconnected and interdependent at each time. Because the senses, parameters, etc., of the different realities are different, you can still have the same interactions between the awarenesses, between the gestalts in different realities where different things can be carried out. But exactly as the analogy we’ve just described, the general inter-experience of the parties involved can still be the same. Some will be more aware than others that it is a play. Others will not be aware at all. Now it just depends on where you are coming from in this whole thing. Some aspects of these particular interactions may wish to be more focused upon than others. And so, one reality may be more suitable to some aspects than another.
Now, the question which has obviously arisen in the instrument’s mind a couple of times today is, as we meet people we don’t know when we go over then are our other children going to be there to meet us? I think you can answer that for yourself.
Reunion will be more than you could ever hope for. When you realise you didn’t lose your other children either, but the ones that felt that interconnection and wish to be part of your life and enter into those love bonds with you is that there has to be a love bond in the first place really, in order for that to be a resident attraction. And they’ve been there all the time. But, how do you think this would go down if you actually started to try to tell the average person this? And, we have not covered this area before, but as we have said, Volume 3 is going deeper into the complexities of all this.
So, we will touch on the edge just for the moment, in this area. That as you go back through what we have written before, what we have said before, you realise nothing is ever lost, but you will shut out that which is not of credibility, shall we say. That which is not pertinent to your day to day activity. Now you’ve seen this in relation to other lives, of course, but you have not really addressed the fact, and why should you, that those who left before they were born are still around as much as the ones that left after they were born. Can you understand that?
I’m just getting Mum and Dad.
(Very long pause)
Now David speaking
I was just getting beams and smiles, great big hugs, I could feel it all in my shoulders, and just absolute joy and great big smiles. It was that they have been recognized, well not recognized, because they’re there with us and we’re there with them. But the ability to get through to here as well. Again, it makes absolute sense. Why would we separate something that is living, growing and then only give it credibility when it is born? And still believe in the whole spiritual thing. As soon as you look at it from those eyes, you know, if you had written a character out of the play on day one, or stillborn, they are out before, what difference is there to writing one out of the play at three months? None. Come back to your religion, say, the soul enters at the moment of conception, but you say the soul continues to exist. Then that soul keeps an eye on the family. If it wants to it can still partake in the life of that family.
(Back in trance)
What we are interested in is the consciousnesses and the connection. It is completely immaterial as to whether the body was there or not. Do you think you will still be in love with your children, your Mum and Dad when you move over? Then the body is immaterial. In which case if those consciousnesses are still together after, they were together before. They will have got together before, wouldn’t they, in order to act out the play. So, they must have had a feeling for each other in the first place. And they’ve been receiving the feelings while they have been over there.
So, as we’ve just said, one reality or another, even this one, or even living the gestalt that didn’t manage to get through with a miscarriage could quite easily have joined in the gestalt of any of our other children. That’s on the physical basis. But on the other basis, it can still be able to say, ‘That didn’t come out correct, but never mind, I can watch the play from the back of the theatre’. So, that other higher consciousnesses can effectively, being our children that didn’t actually get born, watch it all from the back of the theatre. And at the back of the theatre they are with all our higher consciousnesses as well, so they are still part of the family. And then what happens when we leave the stage? We are all part of the higher consciousness. Then we realise we have been there all the time and none of us bother to think about the physical then, you see.
You can’t understand this stuff properly unless you move away from the physical. You cannot think it through in terms of the physical. And if you do find yourself trying to think it through in terms of the physical you can just keep coming back to the old thing, did the soul exist before? In which case, it existed all the way through. And if it started to form what it wanted to form and it didn’t work, it was still a soul along with all the other souls. So they knew each other, didn’t they? And it just said, ‘Well I didn’t get too good with that one. Never mind, how are you doing with your one? I tell you what, I’ll join yours’.
So, basically what you can say is your miscarriages, if they wish to have the ‘on the stage physical feelings’, can still join in with the gestalt of your other children. So, you don’t assign them, just like the Joe Public, you don’t assign that single personality to Steve, Michelle and Hayley. They’re all multiple. In which case, as they are all multiple then they could all have a finger in each other’s pies. That includes your miscarriages. In that they can be living the family life on the stage through them, they can still be living the family life from the back of the theatre, with all the other higher consciousnesses. But it means, to me, with all the terrific emotion and everything I was getting there, that I have just been given the absolute terrific love and joy and that of certainly two others, as far as I know, from here. Two children, now grown up, like Steve, that are here. That we are going to be part of.
Now, while I was doing that I had, and it’s come back again now, I have Steve on the side, he was standing beside and now I’m seeing him again standing on the side. That big smile. Well I could have told you that but how would you have accepted this, as wishful thinking or what? I don’t know. We have no answer to this at the moment. But he did say, I have met a lot of people I didn’t know I knew. We have taken that to be from other lives, haven’t we?
Parallel Lives – Observed and Observer Experience the Same. January 2020
Hi Steve, would you like to tell us about the fact that you have shown yourself to Richard at an older age than he remembers?
Now, just as we explained to Richard in your previous conversation with us, you are aware that everything that is explicated in the physical is constructed from the – we will go straight to the end game shall we – the imaginative patterns existing in the consciousnesses in the non-physical. So, if you consider that as you all age here, then it is quite obvious that the imagination that is producing the progressive aging here is also in the same progressive state. Now, as we have said, you are all together all the time. Because when one stops focusing fully in the physical, they (the observed) simply remain in the non-physical in the observer status, whereas the other family members, say, are both in the observed and observer position. Whereas the departed one is only in the observer position. But you live many lives at once and therefore you can happily stay with the ones that you know and love and are part of the, let us say, the band of players. And why wouldn’t you?
At the same time, just as we have discussed before, yes, it would be possible to stay at the age of 21 in this physical reality, should you, from the observer side, wish that to be, but of course it does spoil the game, it’s not in the rules. Also, you quickly find yourself in an alien position because everybody around you would be getting older and their tastes and activities would change and you would find that you would have to consort with a whole lot of others of the same age, shall we say, who may have moved on from your particular formational environments and now have different attitudes, beliefs, tastes etc. than you do. So, this simply doesn’t work. And nobody does it. So, many, many reasons.
Now, the same thing applies on the observer side. When you have your band of actors, your family say, then you tend to move along with the imagination so that even though you stopped explicating your non-physical patterns, at the age of say Steven at 26, that doesn’t stop him following the same patterns because then he fits in with all the patterns around him.
Now you must be remembering that this is all imagination, it is all plays, you are living many, many lives. There is no be all and end all in these things. You are simply acting out scenarios and so you change your, you may say, costumes as you go along. You grow along with the role. And so even though you have left at the age of 26 you still age at the same rate as the others do, in the imaginative pattern point of view, from the observer viewpoint. And so, you feel at one and you experience the same thing. Even though, for some reason or other, which let’s face it, it is hard to explain that you have left early, maybe the instrument wasn’t up to scratch and failed and although you had to go, it doesn’t stop you experiencing all the interaction and the feelings, emotions from the observer viewpoint. And as we have said before, it is slightly different from the observer viewpoint because you are aware that this is not, as we have just stated, the be all and end all. It is not a finality, it is not quite the same feeling, but you pretty much get the same idea. And at the same time, you still have the warmth and camaraderie of your fellow consciousnesses, of course. And so, when you do come to, as in this case, present yourself somewhere else, then why not present yourself as you are, rather than have to work hard to – if we put it ‘work hard’, makes it easier to say – search back to find the date at which you exited, or the pattern at which you exited, and project that again. Which then would not maybe present the information that you wish to get across. In this case it is wished to show that you age in spirit and of course this bolsters the general belief that children grow up in spirit but of course that is exactly that. But what is said in your normal annals of the of the paranormal, the esoteric, the spirit world is that they’re looked after by other people who sort of foster them etc. and they grow up with them or they grow up with the grandparents or things like this. That’s not quite the same, is it now? We are setting out a different scenario for you. You simply grow up in the company of your mother, father, brothers, sisters, enjoying the same as you would on the physical except that you do it, let us say, at arm’s length, in the observer status. But you do still have the same connections all the way. And as they come over one by one then possibly less emphasis is then placed upon the remaining ones in the physical because by that time, they are getting close to coming over as well.
So, as we have said so many times before, all life is continuous. These things continue on as long as the participating consciousness are interested in continuing in those roles. But in general, as we have stated before, all is a consensus creation, so you don’t really get all these things sort of breaking up in a decaying process. You may decide wholeheartedly, ok we’ve run this one enough. We know that we’re all there and so move focus from there on to other ones. But again these things are still there and if ever you wish to come back and group together and set them going again then it’s as if you never left. This is hard to explain to you because you understand things in the world of time, but when you finally are here, and you understand no time, the timelessness, then you realise that there is no stop start pause etc. you simply ‘are’ at any stage. We won’t get into this business of sequentiality etc. It is just simply impossible to explain to you in terms that you will understand but, we made the point here that you do grow up in spirit, but you grow up amongst your own family, so we have to pour a little bit of cold water on the generally accepted beliefs, but you can imagine that it was very difficult at previous times to be able to put forward the fact that you exist in two places at once. And not only that, that this bit is produced by a far more expanded consciousness which is the real you and the bit that is here is simply the puppet you. Nobody wants to accept that scenario. You simply wish to think that you are you. But once you have sufficiently expanded your consciousness and the humility to accept the fact that, you are operating your instrument but you are both one and the same, you can accept that the sensations and the emotions you are experiencing in the physical are, let us say, more direct, more heightened. You are able in your observer status to either experience those or to keep them at arm’s length depending on your predilections, your desire, or lack of.
So, Mum and Dad, it is easier for them to explain these things than it is me, but as you found out about the miscarriages, we all grow up together. None of us miss anything and you aren’t missing anything either. You are missing me while you’re there, but you are not missing me while you are here. You are not missing the whole act, you know. Events don’t just happen in the physical, they also happen in the non-physical. Just as we talk about the patterns, the physical materialization, of course events are materialized as well. And so, the easiest way you might look at this is the fact that there is a mass dress rehearsal from the observer point of view and then the actual show goes on in the physical. So just like you can do your rehearsal to start with in mufti, shall we say, you then have the full dress rehearsal and you go through it and then there is opening night. So, you can play this along as you wish. But it’s all pretty simple really so the events are being experienced as well, but once more, if we kept coming through to you via a medium etc. and saying “Oh we were there, we experienced this and I’ve got sciatica in my left leg due to injuring my back.” then you would think, oh this is rubbish, wouldn’t you?
As we just explained, if you had to have the dress rehearsal and you had to create the patterns before you explicated them into the physical, then you would have to go through that group, wouldn’t you? As above, so below. The point is that you are not missing me growing up and I’m not missing what you’re experiencing there. And so, the whole point of this construction is the experience in the physical. And you can rest assured that I am experiencing being part of the family. You merely can’t see the action behind the curtain. It is just, let’s say, for your purposes, somewhat preceding the action that is seen by the audience. And when you come over you will obviously be, to use our previous phrase, instantly updated with the fact that you have watched me grow up all the way to the point where you come over. So if you come over at, let’s say, now for example, you would see me at the age of 52 and how I look in the non-physical and so, as we exchange memories – we’ll call it knowledge, shall we say, because you won’t exchange it – we will simply know that we have both experienced everything together as we would have done if the script, shall we say, had been fully played out in the physical by all parties. Whereas it is played out otherwise just in the observer status, although one part is eliminated from the stage. Now, do you understand what I am trying to say?
So, it’s a rather new take on things, but you will see this will enable you to take other people’s sightings, for example, or pre-cognitive dreams or visions where they see the child that is waiting to come to them. That they see that child at a certain age. And yet it hasn’t yet been born. You simply tuned in, or are being sent, how the child will look at a certain age. It is because it has already been organized, played out. It is in the script. You see? So, there are little bits of proof out there, which prove what we are telling you at the moment.
And on another note, I keep very close to Hayley and she will find her way and even though it may not be, let us say, an unbroken path of accomplishment and success, it will result in a happier and more fulfilled person who can afford, or shall we say rather than afford, will have to spend less time worrying about her health and more time enjoying life and making a wider circle of friends and releasing herself from the worry and anxiety of dealing with the present working environment. But you go through these things because you don’t know what you want until you are fed up with what you have already got and then you look for something else. And this is what is happening at the moment. And it, I can assure you for your purposes, it will work out for the better.
Everything else is going fine. Everything is ok with Michelle. We can’t give you any particular thing regarding yourselves because you are your own masters but you can see the way it’s going at the moment, you can see those around you and life is still pretty good, so as I have said before, no intensities arising yet. You can rest ok for quite some time. And probably a lot longer than you imagine you are capable of. So, now, you also need to take on board the fact that due to the pattern, you are no longer speaking to a 26-year-old. I am speaking to you as a mature person in their 50s who has experienced everything that you think I haven’t experienced. But I have and I am also privy to a lot more knowledge, the same as you two are now.
And so, we’ll leave it there because it’s best that the emotions are kept to this side, and I don’t get too close.
Love you, Steve.
Love you, Steve. See you soon.
I’m getting tears here. Starting to well up and… (audio stops)