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If You Wish to Continue Experiencing the Familiar Life of Your Family and Friends After You Leave the Body You Can! 19th February 2018

We can live many lives at any one time so if an individual awareness, who is living many lives, returns to its “source” from more than one existence at approximately the same time how much do the experiences and attitudes gained from each experience, each life, influence each other? Particularly if they are diametrically opposite.

Imagine if you go to, let us say, the road construction public meeting and there are many angry people, you may be one of them? Imagine your feelings as you leave the meeting. You then go to one of your dances, say, you are greeted with warmth and smiles and you find your focus and feelings entirely changed. You have just experienced two opposite sets of feelings, yes?

Yes.

Now don’t you compartmentalise those? You don’t put one set of feelings against the other, do you? You wouldn’t find it easy to recap the events of the road meeting using your dance feelings and vice versa. So you are able to absorb both sets of feelings but you keep them separate. Now what have they been? Within let’s say a day has the intensity of feeling worn off? From both meetings?

Yes.

Which set of feelings would you possibly retain more?

Hopefully the pleasant one more.

Quite likely. Unless the other one is revivified by a further focus. But let us say you have left that subject. So once you have left it you basically put it behind you don’t you? You don’t want to revisit it. So you forget it.  Whereas the dance experience may be recalled with pleasure. Now apply that to your question.

So what about beliefs in these lives? For example, in one you are a deeply committed Christian and in another an atheist. This is the same individual awareness experiencing these lives. What happens when you return to where you came from with those two totally different beliefs?

You soon realise that each one is an experience, a focus, a play. Now if you had been watching a play and got lost in the drama and even identified with one of the characters to a certain extent e.g. the atheist, now (you have switched focus) you will look at that with a different eye because remember you have been having lots of focuses and so as you are forever becoming those lots of focuses will have given you a certain amount, actually unlimited, of experience and an ability to put things in perspective. Basically you have done it all before, even though with no time you can say you were doing it all simultaneously but as we have explained before that no time is more the fact that there is no such thing as past or future because all is always available but that doesn’t mean to say that you are focusing on the same things all the time does it?

No.

So you will be able to put it all in perspective. Now if you have found that you have become a committed Christian while you’ve been here, the minute you leave you are looking from a distance, you are at the back of the stage say, but even more so because you are not even in the theatre any more. Yes?

Yes.

So you look and “well that was interesting, so that is what it feels like to be a committed Christian”.

Yes.

But what does this actually mean? “Well, there is no religion, there is no need for religion. There is no need to believe in this person or that person because we all just simply are”.

This is indicative of what happens in the physical environment. Once you detach yourself from the observer status then you can get lost in a belief system that feels real to you but the minute you step back outside that belief system the unreality of it all becomes perfectly apparent and so, like anything else, you are able to merely put it aside. “That was an interesting experience”.

And you can discuss this experience with various others of course. “What did you think of that?  “Yes, it is amazing”. But it becomes quite academic. Can you imagine the conversations going on, “How did you feel?” “How did you feel?” And then you’re going to get the one who says “Well I suspected it couldn’t quite be right, you know”.  And another might say “I was absolutely convinced I was going to be met by Jesus and I was really quite surprised when Mum and Dad turned up but I couldn’t actually say that I wasn’t most pleased to see Mum and Dad and I realised very quickly that we all survive”.

As soon as you find out that everything that you are creating is due to your own intentions to create X, Y and Z, and it happens, then you quickly realise that your life (existence?) is not bound up by the intentions of some God figure.

So how much in the way of attitudes, experiences etc. actually return with the individual awareness? Or can they only be recreated with the multitude of awarenesses that have conglomerated in the life experience?

You take from each what you wish to take from each. When you were having the physical experience you were sometimes in doubt as to which decision to make. That was an attitude towards something, wasn’t it?

Yes.

Toward one side or the other. Now how much do those attitudes apply to your new environment? Take for example the committed Christian situation. Let us say that Mum and Dad were committed Christians as well. They might say “We’ve learned it isn’t quite as we thought, this is how it works, let us show you”. And they demonstrate. Are you going to believe it as it happens in front of your eyes? And so committed Christianity just dissipates away. (Non-relevant attitudes and beliefs are discarded)

So you don’t need all the other consciousnesses that have been with you in that particular life experience to have any belief, attitude, experience etc.?

We will all decide to go and watch a football match. Now let us say 20,000 people all think that going to watch X versus Y is a jolly good idea. It is all video screened and you all have touch buttons. At this particular football match there is no referee, the crowd is the referee. They are all seeing things from different angles, this sentence has a double meaning, do you understand?

Yes, yes.

They are all seeing things from different angles and so when a challenge is signalled the videos are replayed, you all look at the screen and you all press your button. Now depending from which angle you are watching you could say yes or no couldn’t you? From one angle it looks like a foul from another it doesn’t, bias is in there as well. You may agree or not agree with what has happened. But when the game is over you have experienced the democratic result of 20,000 different points of view and it is up to you whether you say “that was pretty good, I’m happy with the result, it seemed quite fair” or “we wuz robbed”. Now if you saw it as fair you would say “well that’s that, no big deal”.

So you participated, you made decisions faced with actions that have occurred. Now then take that as your individual faced with various actions in various circumstances for which decisions are required but you are one of a number (of participants) 20,000 say or 20, 000,000, who knows, depending on how attractive your particular gestalt is. You go with the decisions that are made.

Yes.

And so,  ”it’s been an interesting exercise”.

Yes.

Now let us say that your particular gestalt has been married to another particular gestalt and you have developed a really good feeling of love. Now when you go over and the other gestalt hasn’t come over then you will probably still have the desire to see that particular person.

Agreed.

Now you do not need to get together with another number of awarenesses in the (your previous) gestalt in order to see that person because you are not creating anything. You do not need a gestalt any more, the gestalt was necessary for the creation of the instrument. You can simply tune into the thoughts, you can tune into the senses. If you think of telepathic transfer of sight pictures, which you have seen credible evidence of on your television programmes, what is being transmitted? The picture being seen by one gestalt is being transmitted to another but wouldn’t you say that each awareness comprising the gestalt is seeing the same picture? Gestalt “A” is going to telepath a picture, seeing a mountain and it has the intention to transfer that picture to gestalt ”B”. Would you say that all the participants in each gestalt see the picture, for the purposes of this explanation let us assume that the picture is transmitted perfectly?

Yes.

So each one is able to see the sensory perceptions of another?

Yes.

So what we are saying is that you as an individual awareness upon leaving the physical are still able to tune in to the sensory perceptions of the object gestalt. Do you understand? The transmission is still there, you didn’t need a physical instrument to pick up the transmission?

No.

The transmission was being made from the instrument seeing the picture but you do not need all the individual awarenesses within the gestalt to do that, any individual awareness can broadcast what it sees i.e. transmit the picture. The picture being seen is like an idea, it is floating out there and so it is whether you wish to focus in upon it.

Thank you.

(We can assume that the brain and mind are continuously transmitting to the individual consciousnesses/awarenesses and majority instructions are being transmitted back.  Broadcasts that can be tuned into by third parties)

So in, what we call, the next life all the awarenesses that are returning, changing focus, what percentage of that would be from the physical and what percentage would be from other types of existences?

How many people, in terms of physical instruments here, lead fairly narrow lives and how many lead very interesting and diverse lives? Understand?

Yes.

So when it comes to bringing stuff back, we work on the same basis, how many lives are you focused into? It is up to each individual awareness. Let us take the football fan once more, we will stay with this analogy. There is one person who is only interested in Manchester United and that is the only game he looks up, he bothers to watch, he is not interested in any other teams. Does he switch on when Hull are playing Southampton?

No.

He is not interested, he doesn’t bother. Now someone who is passionate about football regardless, just loves watching football, is likely to switch on any football game rather than some other programme. So imagine the tennis, which you have just watched; how many people have only watched one person play?

Very few.

Most are interested in the competition. They will have their favourite but they will also be interested in who their favourite is likely to play and if, like our football fan, they just love watching good tennis then they will view many games, many players. When their favourite is playing the excitement and tension will be high but although that may be missing when watching other matches the skill and effort displayed will still be appreciated.

Yes.

At the end of it all, after waking up and finding out who had won the men’s, did it really enter your mind, other than passing, who had won the women’s?

No.

Experience over. You are now back in your home environment. When the next tournament comes up, if it is on your television, will you want to watch parts of that?

Yes.

Another experience.

What I am trying to determine, I was asking about other forms of life other than the physical.

We have been through this before. You cannot imagine yourself as bodiless. We will return to an example we have given you before, sliding up and down rainbows of coloured light, feeling the motion, hearing the music, absolutely blissed out, totally unaware of time. Now, you will think of, what we might term the G-force, the feeling of ascending and descending and the sound rising and falling.  To give you some idea of this; if, wearing your virtual reality visor you find yourself on a rollercoaster and you are suddenly faced with a steep drop what will be your initial reaction?

Fear.

Fear! And will you feel the drop as you go down?

Yes.

But is it real?

No.

It’s imagined.

Yes.

And it’s imagined because of your memory of that. So you look downwards upon a steep drop and then as you look upwards you will expect to slow down and of course you do. So your expectation is creating your feeling?

Yes.

This applies across the board.

 (And as any medium knows those same physical sensations can be experienced as a result of receiving them from a “departed” sender. Conversely the “departed” can experience our physical and mental feelings should they wish to focus in. A consequence of “quantum entanglement” or more simply “interconnected consciousness” operating in a constant state of potential telepathic communication. As explained in a previous post, you can never be separated from those you love. Now you can understand why we are encouraged not to let grief consume us in sadness as when they tune in to see how we are faring they are subjected to our feelings. How much better to try to keep upbeat and enjoying life so that those tuning in pick up those feelings and can be at peace regarding our mental condition whilst they await us joining them. P.S. This knowledge can be of inestimable comfort to the newly bereaved and if able to be put into practice the newly departed also so we would ask that if you know of anyone who could be helped by this understanding to please forward this post to them.)

Please reiterate that part of your question and we will try to expand some more.

I was just asking about other realities that’s all.

This is the point we were trying to make. We were describing sliding up and down the coloured rainbow and then we switched to the rollercoaster; now match the two up. You will imagine the feeling of sliding up and down. You will be happy in that feeling, there won’t be the fear, you will just enjoy the feeling.

Yes.

You not only create your physical reality, you create your feelings, you create everything. You create your attitudes. Attitudes aren’t thrust upon you, you create your attitudes. Fear isn’t thrust upon you….

I would imagine that your attitudes develop throughout what I would call a lifetime and your attitudes change throughout a lifetime.

You don’t imagine that, you are fully aware of that as you experience different things in different places.

Yes.

We once took you through the business of walking into somewhere and opening a door to find somebody firing bullets at you; you quickly slammed the door and then realised there were no bullet holes. The next door was an attacking cobra which you recoiled from but after several more of these you opened the doors with perfect equanimity. You knew that you were going to be confronted by something but it wasn’t real. Apply this to your imaginations. So you are going to imagine a wonderful feeling for example. You are going to imagine beautiful music. In the physical your imagination does not result in perfect pictures or beautiful sounds, you can only base them on memories of the same which are relatively indistinct, but imagine, as we have said in a previous example, that when the telepathic picture comes to you of the café overlooking the Mediterranean it comes to you as a reality as you are not self- entrammelled with the filters of the physical. So it comes to you actually crystal clear and then it is real. What you would term real. It comes in crystal clear.

 ( So just as our thoughts create our realities they are picked up as realities i.e. as we scan the thoughts we are actually scanning the realities which we then decide whether we wish to find out more so we focus on the thought/reality and find ourselves experiencing it. This is why those newly passed over find they have to stay focused on their desired  object/environment as if they let their mind wander they find themselves experiencing successive realities.)   It may be worthwhile  reading a previous post “All Worlds are Thought Worlds”

Well so does the music. If you take sound the only reason you have sound in the physical is because you have pressure waves that impinge upon the ear. Would you not think that sound exists apart from that?

Yes.

So what is the sound of the pressure wave?

It is a vibration, isn’t it?

And you have to convert that vibration to a particular sound. Now when you convert that vibration to a particular sound what is actually hearing? The awarenesses, the consciousnesses focused upon the instrument. The consciousness is actually hearing but with what?

In the physical it is through the ear and the brain.. um..

But the awareness is non-physical, what is it hearing with? You have no idea.

Obviously, because if the human body is made up of X consciousnesses the individual consciousness would just be a minute part of that anyway.

It is not a question of size because when it comes to the imagination the smallest thing can imagine as much as the biggest thing in terms of any particular aspect.

Yes, I would agree with that.

When it comes to multitudinous activities, as in a tapestry for example, then it becomes more difficult and therefore more are involved. One may have detailed out in their imagination their café while another has detailed out their football field and the players upon it. (We must assume that many and various awarenesses then focus in on the player/ instrument of their choice and commence the game according to the agreed rules). So you have all these different ideas/scenarios/ realities floating about and you just focus in on whichever one (or more) that attracts you. Not really any different from the physical, as above so below. You have all these activities going on in the physical and you decide which ones you are going to focus into.

Yes.

Same as your television. If you have 400 channels to choose from which one are you going to look at?  Remember, each one is simply moving waves that move through the atmosphere with no sound or light until they are turned into sound and light by the instrument, i.e. the television, and then your own instrument then turns that sound and light via your eyes and hearing into what you hear and see and then when it comes to the awarenesses I am afraid we will have to leave it there as even if we knew it would be impossible to describe to you because it is totally non-physical.

Yes. Thank you.

All is imagination. Now the word has its connotations. Whenever you think of imagining you think of some sort of hazy picture in the mind which you can think of and get some vague idea of what it is that you are trying to do but that is generally always in the context of something already existing and so therefore you have to go to pencil and paper or computer and try to sketch out what it is that you are thinking of.

Yes.

Then you have to refine the idea, put in measurements etc. If you are technically capable you can then run your design through a computer and see if it works and if it does the next step is to make a model or simply construct from your design. Now depending on how speculative or futuristic your design is in respect to those already in existence it may be that the stresses and strains produced by your designs require materials that do not exist. For example, you could imagine this enormous plane and then find that in order to get that payload off the ground you would need wings of a certain size but the materials available to build those wings would not be able to withstand the stresses placed upon them by the turbulence to be met in normal flying. Everything in the physical has its natural limits. You could not have an aeroplane with a kilometre wide wingspan with your present materials.

So in order to try to give you some ideas we can only put across analogies that you can understand and these analogies are limited by the parameters of the physical environment. When you talk about sight you are talking about looking through eyes at a light reflecting or light emitting object. Now if that isn’t there, how do you see? Because you can only see when light is reflected from something and that is because you are in the physical and that is how the system works. But it is quite obvious that when a telepathic picture is transmitted the receiver is not seeing light being reflected from the object and you ask what is actually happening here?  You would have to say that this would be a thought wave or an intention wave but nobody recognises these things and yet it is happening. (Trying to understand the process/mechanism that makes remote viewing possible is similarly open to speculation although quantum entanglement and non-locality give a credible answer if it is deemed that part of our awareness dwells in that domain but if we also subscribe to the interconnectedness of consciousness these processes are far more simply explained)

When you both think of the same thing at the same time, when you think of someone and the phone rings and it is that person, what has happened? The thought has gone between by what you would call “brains”, but you know that isn’t possible or think it isn’t possible. Has it gone between awarenesses which are focused upon the same thing? Now when it comes to the constituents of the gestalt your awareness of the thought coming from somebody else has come to the surface which means that the majority opinion of the gestalt has said “X is going to phone” or is thinking of phoning. Now there has to be some kind of reasonable connection there between the parties because the majority would have to be interested; how often have you heard of someone saying “That is going to be so-and-so”, a complete stranger?

Never.

Of course not because the majority of the gestalt, even though the thought is out there, would have no idea and couldn’t be bothered with it; but if there is a relationship connection of whatever affinity then yes. Most of the time the only time you will know when someone is going to phone or you know that someone is in trouble is when there is, what you would term, an attachment of care. That is because that corridor of connection is always open, the doors are always open, because you always wish to be aware.

Yes.

Let us say then for that particular person your Skype is always on and so is theirs, so when they think, i.e. press the button, you are immediately aware. Now this continues on as we have said before, once these links are forged then they continue on until they are no longer of interest or something else comes in that is of greater interest. All is forever becoming. You cannot say to yourself that you will only be associated with this person for infinity because the minute that you come back to realising that you have lots of focuses going you will ask yourself “How many people am I madly in love with?”

Yes.

It could be many and so it’s only because you are in the physical that you say “Well which one” because you think in the singular. You don’t think “Well all of them”, and there will be more and more.

You will then realise that you are in love with the image, the gestalt instrument image. You then become aware that everything is connected to everything else and that the image was merely a focus for the time. Yes?

Yes.

You then understand what unconditional love is. It is not conditional upon a physical instrument. That was just in the play, the constructed experience, and outside of that everybody cooperates and so there is no marriage or other restrictive arrangement. There is just love and peace to all, you might say. You are content just to be and to experience and to move from one experience to another and you are all doing it.

Thank you.

You are correct in your earlier conversation that when you turn your focus away from the physical body there will be a short or maybe a little longer transition period to where you understand in the terms that we have just outlined.

Yes, I can well imagine.

You will be quite happy in your new knowledge and, as we have said, as to those remaining you will look back in because you have had a lot of interest, but of course you have got all your other focuses as well and, as there is no time, you will be able to tune into the experience memory and everything else bank of the particular person and so, as we have said before, you will be there all the time, you won’t miss a thing. It won’t be a case of “I looked in last week, what’s happening this week?” because when you look in this week you will be aware of everything that the person experienced in that past week. So to you, no time has passed, or what has, you have been aware of it all.

That’s right.

Because you will pick up what those feelings and attitudes are the instrument is currently sensing and feeling. You will pick up where they are at the present time but that will be the culmination of what they have become and as they maybe switch to a memory from a week before that memory will seem as natural to you as if you have experienced the actual event because you are experiencing the same memory. Do you understand?

Yes, no problem.

So effectively when you enjoin, conjoin, focus into the mind of the instrument then you are part of that mind in the same way that you are part of the instrument that you are currently experiencing the physical through. Yes?

Yes.

It is just a question of tuning in.

And when you have read this over several times you may feel a certain sense of security and peace. 

Please feel free to forward this post to anyone you think may benefit especially those who are grieving the loss of a loved one.

 

 

 

( So just as our thoughts create our realities they are picked up as realities i.e. as we scan the thoughts we are actually scanning the realities which we then decide whether we wish to find out more so we focus on the thought/reality and find ourselves experiencing it. This is why those newly passed over find they have to stay focused on their desired  object/environment as if they let their mind wander they find themselves experiencing successive realities.)      maybe put this comment in all worlds are thought worlds and put a link to that post

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Quantum Entanglement, Non-Locality and Interconnected Consciousness. 6th February 2018

All verify that you are eternally connected to those you love.

Is there any further information that you can give us that possibly we might not understand but somebody accessing the website might understand?

You will have realised from your own searches into the current theories and philosophies that are propounded at the present time and from your membership of the Scientific and Medical Network that the information we have provided so far is what you might call at the outer limits of conjecture as regards the general attachment to the notion of self. Even though we feel that the process as we have described it is quite readily understandable there is a reluctance on the part of most to, if you would like to say the word, “accept” that it is a question of even understanding the idea of acceptance after a lifetime’s believing wholeheartedly in the fact that you are singularly responsible for your thoughts and actions. Even though you may wonder where your thoughts come from you still believe that your actions derive solely from your own decisions; that you make your own minds up albeit influenced by others and by circumstance. Even so you believe that when it comes to the crux that the sole responsibility for a particular decision rests with yourself.

Now to have to give up that control and simply sit back and wait for the decision to come to you takes some understanding because you will still feel that “Ah, I think I’ll do this”.

What is happening? You are responding to what you might call the mass decision, the majority of the mass of consciousness that is, at that time, focused on, what you might call, your particular instrument or identity and its position in its surroundings. So it would be quite difficult for you to stand aside and see a decision made from taking an objective point of view because you are part of the decision making process. The nearest you can get to this particular position is feeling that you have to do something, that this decision to a certain degree is being forced upon me. “I’d rather not do it, but I simply have to do it because I can’t see that there is any other action I can possibly take”. You will blame that on various factors, relationships, circumstance and other strictures but you are unlikely to think to yourself “Well, it’s simply the fact that the majority want to do something else, they don’t see it the same way as I do’.

So you will still take them (decisions made) as your own because really the decision is your own in that you will go along with the thought even though you don’t wish to. Because what is the alternative? The alternative is to switch focus and to do that you will leave the present focus into the physical. Now, of course, you can take the attitude “Well, I’ll sleep on it and so I’ll make no decision and see how I feel in the morning”. Can you speculate yourself as to what might happen during the intervening hours when you are no longer focused into the physical as we previously told you? Would you care to give an opinion on that?

Interaction with other consciousnesses which could give you an answer.

Certainly change your opinion or show you alternatives but point out that “this is the best way” or simply, “we know that may be the best way but we are quite interested in trying this other avenue”. Yes?

Yes.

So your indecision may last for some time but if the overall life of the instrument still holds its attraction then you will stay with it. You will decide that it may be interesting to see what would happen if that course was followed. Normally I would do this but what would happen if I did that?

Yes.

So this is the tough part about taking you any further because in order for you to understand more you would need to understand the feeling of the intensity of thought and the flow of thought and you are really not in a position to do that. You have to be in the world of thought in order to do this, to be aware of all the thoughts that are out there. At the moment you are only aware of the thought as produced by the confluence of thought, shall we say, the thoughts that emerged to which there is a consensus agreement. You are not aware of the multitude of thoughts that goes into that. This is one difficulty.

Now when it comes down to other aspects, as you have seen various scenarios propounded, in the “simulation” hypothesis for example, what is imagination but a simulation?

Yes.

Except for the fact that the imagination is, shall we say, somewhat spontaneous. Spontaneous within prescribed parameters, a certain framework into which you have to operate, in that you can’t expect to operate as if you were at sea if you are on land. Different procedures may be necessary. So you could easily say that simulation could marry up with imagination and the same goes for virtual realities. It makes sense to imagine that somewhere you are wearing a virtual helmet, watching a virtual screen.  After all, what is it inside your head but a virtual screen? You have no idea. We may just as well say that what you are looking at is this, to make it easy for you, sea of moving waves, this 2 dimensional surround of “pixels” and wherever you look then what you see is the mass imagination, the majority imagination.

We are now moving into an area which is slightly different. We have touched upon this before when we were talking about a leader going along and as they do the imagining then you pick up on that imagining and accept it and go with it. See the large mountain on the right, yes, see the small mountain on the left, yes, and so you gradually set your environment up as you go along. We have said the same thing about the shoals of fish and the flocks of birds in that one sends a thought out, the others instantly get the thought and so instantly turn left, right or whatever.

Have you thought in terms of the fact that these flocks of birds or shoals of fish, in regards to gestalt consciousness, are all involved in the decision making? It is not just the leader saying “here’s a picture, go left, go right”, it’s the whole lot simply because of the speed, actually it is instantaneous but that is beyond your present comprehension. (The concepts of quantum entanglement and non-locality are the nearest equivalents to instantaneous communication). Everybody gets to say go left or go right and of course in the speed of things when it comes to say shoals of fish evading predators then that may be panic stations, resulting in left and right being yelled out all over the place. Whereas with flocks of birds do you notice the fact that the movement of flocks of birds is quite graceful. Now why would they do that do you think? The feeling of their movement against the air, would it be enjoyable?

I would imagine so.

If they were stopping and starting, dropping like a stone and having to start up again. You don’t see that do you? You see long graceful movements in the main. Maybe some turns. Pilots involved in acrobatic displays do the same thing, they do manoeuvres and loop the loops, rolls etc. but it all shows control and a certain pleasure in executing a manoeuvre as far as the birds are concerned and to a degree the fish when they are not being pursued may take pleasure in performing rhythmic movements much as you do when you are dancing or Tai Chi or whatever. But then you are entering into a mass agreement because the mass may decide in its imagination that it wishes to experience x, y and z. Once you think of the fact that even though we said before that there are different gestalts of consciousness, which indeed there are, doing their own thing, then due to the interconnectedness of consciousness there will be contact between all consciousness.

Just consider that all are aware of everything that is likely to happen (this would account for premonitions) because if they care to survey the “ocean of thought”, shall we say, much as you go to the internet and look at the world news, then you decide which interests you and which doesn’t interest you. When you are aware that an earthquake or hurricane or some other disaster is imminent, even say the plane or ship you intend to travel on or the turning you were going to take, you are aware of the likelihood of the outcome of taking said action and taking alternative actions because all probabilities are weighed and explored in one fashion or another. That doesn’t mean to say that all are experienced but one can certainly extrapolate them to their likely outcome and then you, your gestalt that is, can decide whether you wish to take the instrument into that particular environment with the knowledge that it may not come out of it or in other cases it definitely will not come out of it and that will be the exit that is planned. Although from your point of view this is seemingly against the run of reason, from another point of view, in that you may also be focusing through many of the gestalts that comprise your family and acquaintances etc., you will still be fully aware and fully focused into the physical but simply through different eyes. You actually don’t lose anything particular except a certain point of view from the one instrument no longer around, but you are still surrounded by the same environment and people except for the one. (Perhaps this is where the proposition arose that we are all one another )

Now if you had been focusing through all these, you obviously would not be aware of it, you can easily see that losing the focus through one wouldn’t be a big deal. Would you agree?

Yes.

You may miss out on a few experiences but in general the experiences will still be yours to enjoy.

We have covered a small part of an area into which you can look further. Whether it will have any practical value to you other than theoretical projection it is up to you to decide because what you have learned so far has given you a certain amount of peace in knowing that there is no question that you will survive the end of the physical body but you understandably would like to know more about your own physical trials and tribulations prior to your intended departure and also as to when that is likely to be. Of course this is all purely looked at from the point of view of the focus into the physical, because in order to take on the viewpoint the individual consciousness focuses into the gestalt and then one has to simply go with the flow and accept what goes on and just live one day at a time. That has got to be the goal of all those who wish to relieve themselves of worry and anxiety about the future. Simply wake up in the morning and “what shall we fill today with?” Put on one side the fact that this may or may not happen.

Now David likes to be in control of the day-to-day and the future. What is the point of buying this plant if I am uncertain as to whether I will see it mature? But if he took a moment to think about it then he would still see it wouldn’t he? (This puts another meaning into “the futurity of present decision”).

As we have just said, through somebody else’s eyes or simply by just focusing in. So how do you feel about those back in Europe who planted vast estates with no likelihood, from the physical point of view, of ever seeing them to maturity? Did they somehow know or did the gestalt know, and of course it did, they would see the end result of their efforts even though they may not be seeing it through one particular instruments eyes. For those who seemingly plan for developments outside their projected lifescale you must think to yourself that the consciousnesses doing this are involved in creation that by nature of the physical takes longer than the human lifetime. So why not? Why should you limit yourself to a human lifetime when it is only a focus through an instrument?

Now, you sit back and think to yourself “well I’m going to focus through several sequential instruments”. Yes?

Yes.

Even though some of those may be alive at the same time. For example, you could be focused through several instruments, all of different ages, all in the same location and all aware of their environment. For you, your sequentiality of experience can be to you, provided you see it from that angle, basically unbroken. You can be looking at it through the eyes of the grandfather. The father is an adult as well, you can be looking through those eyes. The son is reaching adulthood as well and has memories of his childhood and so we go on. You don’t have to stay in the family line either.

You can be the tree.

You can even be the tree if you wish, yes.

If you are part of the person who is doing the planting and you wish to be part of the environment, you could give the instrument the idea of planting. It doesn’t matter whether it is for his lifetime because it is for your (planned) lifetime(s).

You make a good point in that it is possible that a group of trees may want to arrange themselves in a certain order. Now we could come back to another area of your previous mythology, you might say, that the god Pan is responsible for the flora.

I’m not aware of that, I don’t remember.

Let us look at gestalts which are not focused through physical eyes and are simply wishing to design the beautiful vista, shall we say. But in order to design that particular vista, yes, they can have it in the imagination like everything else but you all can work in different ways. You can draw or paint a vase or you can actually make a vase, two different experiences, different sensations and satisfactions. Painting a vase is more akin to an observer status but actually fashioning it and feeling the clay forming in your hands is being fully involved although you won’t be aware of the finished product until it is finished any more than you are until you make the final brushstroke on your painting. Different dimensional experiences, the virtual, the 2 dimensional and the 3 dimensional aspects of the actual vase.

If you wish to experience all three dimensions then you have to use different levels of involvement, different focuses and work with different numbers of participating consciousnesses according to the dimension you wish to create in.

So although you may be focused into a tree gestalt you may still need another gestalt, be it a human or an animal to plant these acorns, shall we say, so that in 150 years time say you have this wonderful avenue of oak trees. It is very unlikely that you would use a squirrel to bury these to the desired pattern so you would give the idea to an instrument that understands measurement. You can see that interaction and cooperation is necessary to co-create. One can never understand where the thought first arose. It is basically impossible to determine which consciousness produced the thought because that consciousness didn’t know where the thought came from either. How can you claim ownership when you are noticing thoughts all the time, from everywhere? How do you know whether your thought is original or not, you simply don’t. All get used to the idea in the end. It doesn’t matter where it came from, it looks interesting and I think I’ll follow it along because it looks like it could be an interesting experience.

This is one area worthy of further thought, trying to understand your own position in this web of interconnectedness and seeing the various avenues that are open to you.

You are getting to the edge now where you will need to experiment and have at least a mental experience of the maybe. We can use words and words and words but nothing in the end is going to substitute for your understanding through deduction and experience.

We suggest that you listen to this over again and see what major points you can take on board and we will revisit this at a later time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Locus of Decision Making. December 31st 2017

Could you give some insight into the relationships which exist between the brain and what we term  the mind and the controlling consciousnesses? The flow of sensory information and the analysis of same and the subsequent process and location of decision resulting in intention and action?

So let us take any form of large organisation within the physical. A large corporation, an Army, a government department or even an organised large social event. You have layers of responsibility which generally take the form of a pyramid. You have those at the bottom who usually have a simple routine task to perform, they are chosen for and are content to execute their responsibility and know at each time that their action is correct. They do not have any uncertainty as to their duty as their decisions and actions largely follow a prescribed procedure which they can follow in the knowledge that what they are doing is correct. So you may as well say they are “programmed” to carry out their function.

Then you get the next level up where there are those who are instructing the ones below. At that level they too have their own set of rules and their own set of reactions to anything slightly untoward that comes up from the first layer. Now if it is something that is totally out of the ordinary what do they do? They refer it to the next layer, and so on and so on.

So take your physical instrument, take all the activities that go on within the body and see the coordinating sensors (centres?). You see, and you are well aware of this one, that the heart is absolutely necessary and it receives instructions to beat fast, slow or whatever is required. It receives those instructions from a certain area and you have yet to find out where those instructions come from in terms of the brain, but would you say that most of these are basically programmed reactions? Yes. So when a demand comes in there is, what you would term, an automatic reaction to satisfy that demand. Now this would be the same whether it is a demand for oxygen or adrenalin to provide instant energy, fight or flight whatever. You can work your way up to the conclusion that most of the physical body is indeed, as many in the medical profession look upon it, a form of machine as the process by which things are carried out can be established.

When it comes to looking at it in that fashion then you have to think to yourself that “this machine was built” and its operating system was built as well. Now most operating systems work because of the programs that have been inserted and the fact that the decision making pathways are established. You can see this in all large organisations where things are passed up the line until a decision is handed down. As an example, you could look down and think “I could jump off this one foot chair” and not even think about it, just do it. But put that up to three feet and what happens then? Then you stop. Now is that decision being referred up? Because why have you stopped? Because there is uncertainty.

Uncertainty and fear.

Correct. But the uncertainty and fear arises because you are waiting for a decision as to whether or not to do it. Where is that decision being made? You think that you are thinking about it, “shall I, shan’t I”? So, as regards the majorities, is there a consensus? At that point?

No. The decision is before everybody.

Yes. So there is a part of the gestalt saying “yes, we can do this” and another part saying “No, I don’t think we can”. The debate is going on at that stage. Yes?

Yes.

So where do you think that is going on?…………………We’ll answer this. First of all you say that the brain can look at the past history of jumping off a three foot tall and it can think that, “yes, I have been able to do this in the past” but lately, especially as you get older, it is not quite so easy and you don’t land as lightly as before. So let us go back over, because everything is stored, and you think of all the things that may be relevant. You look at what you are going to land on, “am I going to land on concrete”? Now you wouldn’t think at all about jumping off three foot into water, would you?

No.

And you wouldn’t worry too much about jumping into a pile of hay. But faced with jumping onto concrete you would stop and think. You would be going through the options. Same thing applies. Where it comes up that, “that would be safe” it is because we can basically calculate the impact force and decide “yes, we can handle that”. But when it comes to the concrete then one has to say “well someone has to make a decision here, do we do it or don’t we do it”. Now of course other possible routes of descent are explored, “can we climb down”? But what if that is not possible, then we have got to do it haven’t we?

So the majority says, “well, we can’t stand here all day, let’s do it” and the rest say “well on your head be it” and so you do it. Generally you will survive quite adequately, another time you might hurt your foot. Another experience undergone.

This is all very well for the physical but what happens when you are looking at a complete change of lifestyle, shall we say, a major decision which may need to be made on the basis of values, emotional values, satisfaction values etc. Would you think that is a province of the brain as the brain is a physical instrument?

No. It would be a consideration for the mind.

Correct. It would not be as the brain is part of the physical instrument. Now the mind is a language construct, really, for your understanding. These are not discrete and separate entities. The whole thing is seamless and interconnected but from the point of view of your understanding it is easier for you to think that the mind is separate as such. You can view them as totally interconnected but decision making is done at different levels. You must remember that the same energetic makeup prevails whether it is physical, mental or, what you would term, the consciousness. For the purposes of this discussion let us say that they are compartmentalised.

So the mind is more concerned with the analysis and presentation of possible courses of action, shall we say. The implications of taking one path or another. The mind is mostly focused on the interaction with the brain. Interaction with the physical instrument, the physical focus. It is looking at not only what has happened to the physical but it has picked up over the years what has happened with everything it has come into contact with. So the mind is a repository of knowledge, it is where to go to dig out your facts. Let us come back to your computers once more. You could say that your computer resembles a mind. You go there to find out things. You don’t go there to have a decision made. It is used as a consultant to get information and advice to expand your knowledge and therefore it may help you in your decision making. The mind is a repository of knowledge and experience and the experience of others that you have taken on board. From that repository you can compare the likely outcome of decisions as evidenced by your own prior experience and the experience of others facing the same challenges.

Now when you reach that area of thought you will find that the constituents of the gestalt are very much involved with the mind. Most of those focused into the gestalt, due to being lost in the drama, are not aware that they are experiencing the decisions of the majority. They see themselves as the “I” so they feel that the decision is theirs to make and so these opportunities are presented and generally a course of action is decided upon. Some decisions you make are right and some are not but when you are in the moment of doing this you may make a decision where you think “well, I’m not too happy with this one but I’ll do it, I just feel I’ve got to do this”. Now what is happening here is that you are not part of the majority at that stage. The majority are deciding to do this but you are unsure, but because the thought of the majority is so strong you think it is your thought but you still feel some doubt, you are not certain but you go along with it anyway and then you may find out that it was the right thing to do after all, in which case there is a sigh of relief that you made the right decision, “I am glad that I made that decision”, but you actually didn’t. If it goes wrong, “I wish I hadn’t made that decision”. You will still take it as being your own personal aspect because that is the whole point of the physical.

If you look at all this process it is a hierarchical process except that in the end you do not have a singularity or a small board at the top. You have the whole organisation voting, all those who are interested in the overall direction of the instrument.  Those who are part of it all but who are only interested in the experience they are gaining from focusing within a particular area of the instrument may not be bothered. For example, you have your doctors and scientists here studying the body all the time, now what has been happening with these physical bodies over the millennia, they’ve changed. They have changed in shape, size and performance, so would you not credit it that those minds of your scientists and doctors are simply the minds of the consciousnesses that are interested in perfecting the instrument. It follows that the way to find out how a heart really works is to put part of your focus into the heart muscle or any other aspect of the heart operation. A greater appreciation is obtained when you become part of the action. Your doctors would, if they could, tap into a particular part of the body so that they could receive all those sensations and so understand what was going on. In general you cannot, but you can (as a consciousness) if you decide that that is your area of interest, at that stage you are not interested in what the instrument is doing or its life. You are only interested in the workings of that particular organ or whatever happens to be your focus. It is of no interest to you what is going on outside of your area of focus. You may have a focus in one or many other lives but if you find enjoyment in designing and perfecting the operation of physical instruments then as above so below.

The same applies to everything in the physical area and any other reality for that matter.

 

 

 

 

 

22nd November 2017 Understanding the Process of Aging and Illness. The Path to Acceptance.

(Personal but applicable to all.)

Can you give us any insight into David’s health please?

The body ages and much as you would like it to carry on behaving as it always has, for every single person there comes a time when something doesn’t quite work the way it did before.

Apart from general atrophy, the wearing out of various areas, those focusing through the instrument, focusing into the gestalt, are desirous of certain experiences. If you look at the experiences that any particular instrument is basically familiar with and habitually engaged in then even those will tend to slow down with age. You will not find those who can run as fast in their seventies as they could in their forties for example and even less than in their twenties regardless of who they are. The laws, or the agreements, with regards to the physical are such that you are meant to exist here for a certain time. As we have said before if you had too many people living to 150 it would rather spoil the show wouldn’t it?

Yes.

These things change gradually and so ALL focusing into the gestalt have the belief that the instrument they are imagining will follow the norm. (One is born, matures, ages and dies.) Now as we related with the cheetah. When you decide to look at a cheetah what do you see? The patterns of all the cheetahs. What happened to the older cheetahs? So as you run through the patterns and you focus on the next pattern, and the next pattern and the next pattern what happens to the cheetah? You just follow along with the patterns, it becomes habitual. You are used to focusing on the next pattern because it is easier to focus on the pattern for your creativity than it is to start afresh all the time. Do you understand?

Yes.

You focus on the pattern and this is why cheetahs and everything else carries on in roughly the same vein. It doesn’t change, you don’t get a human with four legs because you are looking at the pattern with two legs so why would you go to the effort of creating a human with four legs? It would necessitate a whole new design to make it workable. A centaur? You wouldn’t have a normal human, it wouldn’t fit in. You couldn’t have the same events. Because you are going through the human being pattern you have your own stamp on this.

When you paint a picture you paint it on a canvas, you use the same range of paint colours. What happens there? You are limited by the brushes and paints that are available. So is everybody else. (In the case of a body presumably the available genetic material). Let us say you have a painting by numbers, what we are saying here is that you are all painting to the same pattern. You understand?

Yes.

You are going to make a painting (create/imagine a human), up comes the pattern, the human pattern we will call it. You have the same paints as everybody else but what do you do? You use them differently, so the colours are slightly different, but due to the design of the picture and the fact that you need to have something that fits in to the overall scenario you don’t produce a human with a black head, a brown body and white legs , do you? You choose one particular type and that type in general will depend on the place where you desire your experience. If you produce it in Africa you will colour your pattern in black, the racial stereotype. (Obviously if you choose white or other parents residing in Africa for your experience you will follow the available genetic pattern) You don’t get western features if you are born to an African mother from an African father because it wouldn’t be accepted, it would stand out. So if you want a trouble free life for your experience you paint your pattern to suit. Now it will be a different pattern to the one next door because as we have said before if you have a million awarenesses focused into a gestalt you won’t get the same as the next million awarenesses, will you?

No.

They will all be choosing different brushes and colours and using them in different ways but they will have to follow the overall pattern (remember the analogy is painting by numbers) and that overall pattern may restrict their use of brushes and paints so in general the colours available will be applicable to the particular location and the genetic material, heritage etc. (Remember that you are continually creating/imagining the pattern throughout your life according to your belief about the stages of life and aging, so in general the pattern will reflect that belief.)

So we come back to the same thing with the illnesses. You are running through the life, you have ideas on what you are going to do with that life. Now some may decide to max out the sensation element of that proposed life, will eat and drink their fill and not worry about the condition of the instrument. They will be primarily interested in the sensations because that is their purpose to experience and there will be little interest in athleticism etc. as their primary interest is gustatory sensations. Others are interested in mental sensations, which they find in thrill seeking or drugs say while others are interested in sexual sensations and those ones may keep their bodies in good shape, for example, as they may not be as interested in food and drink as the first category. Others may come to acquire as much knowledge as possible and again the bodily condition may not be of great importance.

When you choose your life you choose your own experiences and you will keep your vehicle in such a way as to suit. Now when it comes to David here, look back through his life, he has basically been relatively fit right up to this present time and still in most aspects is quite fit for his age but lately due to age and other things his focus has been turning to more to the cerebral, the mind with a lesser emphasis on the body. There has been a loss of interest in food and drink other than as a necessity, a loss of interest in bodily sensations and golf but a great increase in interest in cerebral interconnection and so what do you think that the awarenesses who are involved at the present time are giving priority to and therefore not keeping other aspects up to scratch, not neglecting but not working hard to keep in tip top condition? It is obvious that the mind is still extremely sharp and active but the body is starting to show signs of reduced performance and this is one thing you will have to expect unless priorities are changed.

Yes.

But if priorities are changed then what will you do. If you really wish priorities to change you will be exercising day in and day out. You will be determined to reform your muscles, expand your lungs, do lots of cardio exercise, but is there the wish to do that?

Probably not.

You see. One has to ask why there is not the wish to do that especially as with all the knowledge you have you realise that “this is not important” and also the fact that you have been there, done that, “do I need to do this anymore”? But what comes with that of course is, as the saying goes, “use it or lose it”. You cannot expect to keep your muscles strong if you don’t exercise them and that applies through the body. If you don’t have the drive to stay young and you are quite comfortable in your skin as it is then you take the attitude of “que sera sera”, “I’ll go with the flow”. Most people of a certain age do just that but there are these transition periods where you are starting to lose one aspect and you have a certain amount of anxiety but you will find that will pass and you will reach another plateau or you may say a lower level in the physical and a higher in the spiritual in terms of knowledge.

Nearly everybody goes through these transition periods. They have periods of illness which then pass. You have been through them yourself. We can focus into gestalts all over the place look at the instruments and see them all with a deficit in one area or another whether or not it is apparent. The older you get and the nearer you get to returning, the less importance is attached to keeping the vehicle running because you are already preparing whether you realise that or not. You are fully aware on another level that you plan to exit at some time. It is just the interest that keeps you going here. Provided you find yourself interested, because how you speak, how you feel, that is the majority. (of the awarenesses comprising the gestalt) You must take note of what it is that you are actually thinking, what it is that you are saying because that is the majority that you are actually experiencing. You are not controlling the majority (opinion) you are experiencing the majority.

When you argue with yourself in your mind, say. When the majority speaks the majority may find, much like Angela Merkel currently (21/11/2017) that it can no longer hold the coalition together quite so easily. It does not have that majority say 70% in harmony as to what has to happen therefore does happen.  If that majority starts to shrink as interest is lost in certain aspects by some but others keep a strong interest have you got that intensity anymore? If you don’t have the intensity you won’t have the manifestation and so you have to listen to your own feelings. Listen to your feelings, listen to your desires and realise that “this is what I am experiencing”.

Now you can say “I will go with the flow on this because I understand that I am just experiencing this” or you can voice, when I say you, you can listen to the voice of the majority and the majority will be, as we just remarked, what you would think of as talking to yourself. But what are they doing? When they express these words, these thoughts, it is the majority, however thin it has become, trying to convince the other participants, “this is what we want to do”. This is where you get the feeling of doubt. Do you understand?

Yes.

Because it is no longer certain. You did not have so many doubts when you were younger because the majority was certain it wanted to do this, it wanted to do that, but now it’s not so sure. There is a difference in the makeup of the gestalt. As you can well imagine those interested in mainline gustatory pleasures mostly removed their focus when you became vegan. Those who desire barbecued meat for example will not be involved in your gestalt, you will have lost those some time ago. Now when it comes to being vegan, if you were an awareness wanting to join a vegan, which vegan you joined would depend on the other aspects of their life. If you wished to take a full life as a vegan you would join a child who is a vegan, presumably within a vegan family or a partially vegan family. If you merely wished to temporarily sample the lifestyle any vegan may suffice.

However there are others who have had different lives but want to see…now you have a particularly, in terms of numbers, unusual mental set, shall we say, with regard to your understanding of reality. For those who have inculcated belief systems through being involved in the physical and have not bothered to investigate these other aspects of understanding, the relationship between the physical and other dimensions for example, when the channelling is going on it is an unusual occurrence and so the consciousness is vastly expanded due to the attraction of the activity and the subject matter. They can see an instrument where the majority is quiescent while there are a few who are able to hold the stage, shall we say, and not only control the instrument but address the majority due to the majority being willing to listen. We will take your thought and we will put our intensity behind it because we want to hear what comes out. We want to see the thought form and we want to see the form that the thought forms. (Imagination crystallising and the resultant manifestation) You have this constant coming and going so all we can advise is the fact that the gestalt in this particular instant is waxing and waning because it is in the process of change. It is a process of ditching old habits and finding new.

Now David, as you can see, he doesn’t understand why himself, has lost his enthusiasm for golf. Happy to do it for the exercise but no longer enthused by the prospect. It is the same with you no longer interested in learning new dances. You will learn as best you can while you are there but you most certainly would not go to lessons to perfect a new dance routine because it no longer holds your interest. So what does hold your interest? What you are doing now holds your interest. Now how long is it since either of you have looked to see who has won the weekly PGA golf competition or even who is currently No 1?  Neither of you have.

We haven’t talked about it lately.

At one stage you were following the competitions, looking at the leaderboards and interested in who was winning but gradually and imperceptibly it disappeared from the radar and you are no longer doing it. Now apply that to what we have been talking about and it’s not just David it is yourself as well. For some reason it is no longer important who is winning the golf. If you happen to see a headline, yes you will go to it because it was an old habit and that may spark “I wonder who is No.1?” But this is becoming a rarer and rarer occurrence.

Now apply that to the operation of the body. “We need to keep this in really good order” but then you don’t quite…”we’ll leave that for the moment, we’ll come back to that” and later “it’s not going quite so well but never mind, it’s doing OK and it’s going to take some effort, an effort of focus to concentrate on that aspect when there are other more interesting areas to focus upon. So you can see how the gradual change goes relatively unnoticed.

With regard to the onset of sudden debilitating infections you may wonder for example why viruses attack. You realise that bacteria form a large part of the body so it follows that there has to be law and order amongst the bacteria and all the functions that go on within the body in order to keep everything operating harmoniously but if less attention is paid to that law and order then here and there chaos ensues. If you look at, shall we say, the foot soldiers of the immune system, the police, the white blood cells, the macrophages and killer cells, what is their function? Their function is to keep order. When they see something acting out of line they eliminate it. They do that because the overall gestalt is providing the intensity of intention and encouragement, “that must be kept in order”. That aspect of the body’s operation is closely monitored and if something is amiss action is taken for that to be stimulated. The production of the necessary cells may be increased, whatever. Yes?

Yes.

When it is no longer quite so important it is let slip and then of course some things go beyond the point of no return. What you have to realise here is that each aspect of the body is its own particular set of awarenesses. Its own particular gestalts each with their own experience requirements. Just the same as you look around in your world and some people are behaving abominably as humans then others may be behaving abominably as bacteria. You still have the same attitudes, predilections for various forms of experience, we would say, rather than enjoyment. This is, with regard to the body you might say, as without so within. You understand?

Yes.

You will have to get used to the idea that you cannot keep things perfect forever. You take it for granted that your face and skin will begin to age as you grow older and even those who are very fit still show the signs of aging. Their hair loses its colour for example. That is because it isn’t important to them, they don’t believe that they can retain their hair colour but they do believe that they can keep their muscles in good shape so they focus on keeping their muscles in good shape but how does one keep their liver in good shape? Where is the advice, apart from the food and drink intake, on keeping the liver in tip top condition? Much less the pancreas, the spleen etc. The argument for the heart is exercise but you can’t exercise the pancreas can you?

No.

Or you don’t think so. So run yourself through all the various internals, look at what information is available on them and then switch to your gestalt and the awarenesses in the gestalt and where are they? On the stage. What information is available to them? The information available in the physical. They are not party to information available without the physical. They do not understand how they are creating the body. It is there and that is what they are there for, the experience.

The only thing you can really do is decide on what it is that is of importance. Decide what it is you want to do and then take the necessary action. You are taking the necessary action at the moment in order to relieve discomfort. Now take this one or two steps forward, imagine you have relieved the chest discomfort, imagine you can still walk around perfectly happily and then would you accept, albeit reluctantly, the fact that you will be able to dance at the same rate as the others at the dances you go to but you will no longer be able to, quite so easily apart from short bursts, dance in the fashion that you were able to dance a year ago because you have moved to another platform. For reasons you are not aware of but you will put down to inflammation, attack, illness or simply wearing out.

So simply, we would advise that you sit down, you think it through and you say “I’ll take all the action necessary to lead a comfortable and fulfilling life and then carry on and do so and forget about it.

Yes. Good advice. Thank you.

The Process of Healing through Prayer. 2nd October 2017

The Process of Healing through Prayer.

We frequently hear about prayers being sent out for those who need healing and in many cases they appear to meet with some success. Would you please explain the procedures involved?

Prayer is a supplication, a plea for assistance. In general the individual, praying either for himself or another, does not find a way in order to effect the healing and merely has faith in that an outside force, outside that of physical reality, can somehow effect a miraculous healing.

Now how does this work? If you had asked this question before you were able to pass through the information that we have given so far we would not have been able to give you an answer in the fashion that you would understand but having taken you to the point that you now understand, whether or not you accept it, that each manifestation is comprised of many, many intelligent entities, shall we say, that come and go according to their interest in the events currently being experienced we may be able to draw an analogy now with the, currently in vogue, practice of crowdfunding.

What is the “Crowd Funding” process? There is an internet i.e. a medium through which you can contact many, many people, millions, even hundreds of millions, and should you be able to attract their attention and their empathy you can effectively raise a great deal of money in order that you can use that money to effect the intention that you hold. Let us take a case where funds are needed for very expensive medical treatment, if you raise $50,000 you can now afford the operation. If the operation results in a cure then what have you done? You have broadcast a plea, you have touched an awful lot of other intelligences, they have sent the money, you have used the money, which is energy, to get the operation and the person is then healed. This is using all the elements of physical reality.

Now when you make a prayer to the unknown, the unseen, what is happening? You are sending out a thought. You are sending out a thought, that thought, as we have told you before, then, for want of a better way of putting it, goes into the thought net. That thought is then accessible by every other intelligence. Due to, what you might call, their blocking mechanisms (their beliefs, preferences, resonances and the converse) a certain amount of those numbers out there will tune into that thought. Should they consider that thought, just as the crowdfunders, to be a suitable cause they will go to the object of that thought, let us say that this is a person thousands of miles away, distant healing you call it, who needs to be healed. They will take a look at that particular gestalt and decide whether they want to lend their focus, their intensity, you might say energy, to that focus, that gestalt.

Now the majority of that gestalt obviously have not been sufficiently, let us say, interested in the particular problem that the instrument that they control suffers from. It may be intentional, it may be, “let us see how this progresses”, it may be that this is not going to make a great deal of difference to the instrument. In other cases it may be that the intention is to leave the physical reality but let us assume that it is something that really hasn’t been addressed as such and is capable of change. In other words the majority (opinion, belief) may be a thin majority and it can go either way.

Now if sufficient other consciousnesses join, you understand what is going on here, if sufficient other consciousnesses join, and provided that their intention fits in approximately with the interest of the gestalt they can do so, then they just lend their weight, their intensity, their focus to that gestalt and they come down on the side of “let’s put this matter right, we feel that this is worth healing here”. All they are doing is effectively changing the majority view and once the majority view is changed a different direction is taken. If it was just going along with a laissez- faire attitude and the instrument wasn’t doing quite so well but the gestalt wasn’t particularly bothered about it or other matters are involved then if the gestalt consciousness is expanded by the addition of all those who have heard the plea and they want to change what is going on then the change will occur. A different direction will be taken. The instrument will be, let us say, reprogrammed, re-patterned. Let us say there is a tumour there. It may be decided to return to a previous pattern where there wasn’t a tumour, and you must remember here that past, present and future are all one, the future can affect the past if you so wish, so it is possible to go backwards and re-instate the pattern of that particular area as it was before the tumour started to appear. Alternatively you can change the signal that the cancer cells are giving out so that they become open to attack by the killer cells and the tumour will then disappear (a series of patterns giving rise to an impression of remission rather than raising questions as to the nature of spontaneous healing ).

Really what you have done is change the opinion of the majority of the consciousness that comprises the gestalt. Now if you can see from the gestalt that the intention is to end that life then no change will happen as you respect the intention of that particular gestalt. (It was meant to be!) It is not a question of wanting to change their direction, it is a question of looking into the particular circumstances pertaining here and if you understand that the gestalt knows exactly what it is doing then you simply turn away. If however you see that the opinion is vacillating then you might ask what is the overall plan here and suggest that it might be advantageous to have the instrument in good working order and you can change opinions like this and consequently the ongoing manifestation.

All consciousness is in the state of various beliefs, opinions and attitudes at any one point in time. Some can be swayed easily, some cannot. You have witnessed someone who is considered to be a normal human being who over a period of time is brainwashed into becoming a murderer and goes off to war. What has happened there? What has happened to the overall consciousness? It can be insidious, some join, a few more join, a few more join and suddenly that original consciousness is swamped by a great swarm of others who wish to have an instrument to play with. It depends on the strength of the original gestalt as to what plan is being followed. Do you understand? Do you have any more questions?

So attempts at changing the direction of the instrument are only undertaken after assessing the strength of the intention of the consciousnesses comprising the gestalt in question?

In general when a plea goes out it is for, what you would term, a good purpose so it attracts those who wish to help. It doesn’t attract those who wish to harm.

In an instance where the healing is going to occur does that mean that as the healing consciousnesses come to the gestalt the sick consciousnesses will be persuaded to leave?

It is not a question of “sick” consciousnesses. There are no sick consciousnesses.

Those who are persuading the gestalt to be sick. The constituent awarenesses that are manifesting the sickness in the instrument.

We are starting to get into the areas of good and bad again. There are only experiences that are wished to be undergone. You can take your hands off the wheel and just see what ensues. Let us ask “How has the sickness arisen”? There are many theories as to how sickness arises. Sickness does not only arise from physical sources it can arise due to emotional conditions or beliefs, from a sense of guilt, from despair or grief due to loss. These conditions often result in a lack of care for the physical body which can be translated as a lack of focus upon manifesting the optimal pattern, shall we say. One is introverted and focused upon the emotions of the mind and the body is ignored. This is all the consciousnesses involved in the gestalt of course as each one considers themselves the “I”. So if you come along and make them aware of what they are creating and offer to help remedy the situation your help may be accepted. In some cases the overall plan may have been lost sight of and that can be pointed out e.g. if the plan was to live for a further 20 years then you can ask whether those years would be better spent in health rather than in sickness and a change in focus may be made.

Let us say for example that there was a not so detailed life plan. There was a basic outline of a physical life with the major events to be experienced and “we’ll deal with the rest as we go along”. In sickness and in health, you might say. When an unplanned sickness arises there may be confusion as to how to deal with it, the thought goes out and those who wish to advise do so. Remember the focus is in the physical, the consciousnessses are not focusing as observers. They are on the stage. Those who are fully focused on the stage do not understand that they can change the blueprint if they wish to. They do not understand that they can, what you would term, go into the past and re-pattern. Due to the “rules of the game”, you might say, this information is blocked because otherwise you would have people staying far too young, far too long and the whole idea of the birth to death experience would be frustrated.  When you enter into a physical experience you are aware of the rules, the laws and should you be seen to be going in the wrong direction then because it is a co-creation other consciousnesses will simply weigh in and the intensity will change your direction. At any time those who are not happy with the general direction of a gestalt they are focused within can simply look away and focus into another gestalt. You only experience that which you wish to experience therefore you only focus upon those gestalts that will provide the desired experiences.

In general those praying for healing pay no more than lip service to the fact that the particular individual has a plan for their life before they enter physical reality and when we say “individual” we mean the particular gestalt and its planned series of experiences. You may see somebody who is relatively young say or who has a terminal disease and you feel it is such a shame and you want it changed. You want them healed. Now in your own case, Jean and David, if you had known that your own son was going to die from a terminal illness you and all those who knew him would have been praying for his recovery. Yet what has it done to all of those who were close? It has changed the way they think, changed the way they live, changed their interests. We wouldn’t have the website and all the people that are benefitting from the website and all the people that you have helped over the years through your activities in the spiritualist movement etc. if you hadn’t had the trauma of losing your child. Yes?

Yes.

So could you turn around and say to yourself “well, somebody had to volunteer for this”?

Yes.

So someone takes the part that entails leaving the stage in the second act and others took the part of being the bereft parents and siblings who vowed to help all the others who suffered the same grief and despair. But you would not have done that if you hadn’t lost a child, you could not have done the work you have done.

No.

The same applies with any form of plea for healing. Some work, some do not, depending on what the intent was originally and you can see the argument for that, can’t you?

Yes.

So to put it in a nutshell, a plea goes out, the plea is noticed, if it is considered that it is correct to heal the particular instrument after examination of the gestalt’s life plans and current intentions and its awareness of what is possible then you can gently make them aware and change opinions. Not that you have to, you can simply add the weight of numbers, the awarenesses, the focuses into the gestalt and things can be changed.

So we come back to the analogy of crowdfunding. You can write these steps down on a piece of paper and see that the process is pretty much the same.

Thank you.

Now it may take time for things to be changed within the gestalt. The focuses coming in and changing the imaginative picture need to keep focus there for a while to effect the healing completely. They may only stay around to focus in that particular life to help effect the healing  as that life may not otherwise be of interest to them so they’ll come and they’ll go and the belief that is being held onto in the physical may see it happening and then not believe it. Much like the placebo effect in that the placebo works because the belief has changed among those focused on the stage that this pill is going to make things better. Then when they are told that they were only given a placebo, it was not actually an effective drug, the beliefs change back again and the condition resurfaces. It depends on the beliefs pertaining in the gestalt at that time. Their beliefs, their thoughts, their imagination produce their reality.

As far as those who are praying, then one can say in their thoughts “we feel that this is a good case for this particular person to be healed and we ask you to look at the situation and if you feel that you agree then please join in the effort to effect said healing if that is what is meant to be”. That statement encompasses all the intentions of that particular gestalt. Then you let go, send the thought out and let go, there is no more you can do. You may wish to send the thought out a few more times but it will be noted in the first place anyway by those who are open to such thoughts and do not block them and there are sufficient out there at any time to effect the change should the cause be determined worthwhile.

Thank you again.

Talk:- The Interconnectedness of Universal Consciousness.  The Self as a projection of multiple individual Consciousnesses. 31st August 2017

Talk given by David Ingman to the Sydney Theosophical Society in September 2016 and given to the Sydney Group of the Scientific and Medical Network in August 2017.

 (This talk involved the use of power point and as such the below is split into the relevant power point pages.)

(Power Point 1)

Talk:- The Interconnectedness of Universal Consciousness.
The Self as a projection of multiple individual Consciousnesses.

(Power Point 2)

“How far is the one mind a collection of quasi-independent perceptual minds integrated physically in large measure by temporal concurrence of experience?”

Sir Charles Sherrington 1857 – 1952 Neurologist, Nobel Prize winner, President of the Royal Society

We hear much of the total interconnectedness of everything, we hear that we are all one and we hear that we are all each other. As many “particles” have to come together to manifest in a physical form so many “minds” have to come together to manifest a “self”, an impression of individuality.

 

(Power Point 3)

Everything in the Universe, throughout all its kingdoms, is conscious: i.e., endowed with a consciousness of its own kind and on its own plane of perception.

                                                                                                                               H.P. Blavatsky

Yet, the Universe is real enough to the conscious beings in it, which are as unreal as it is itself.                                                                                                                    H.P. Blavatsky

“Illusion is an element which enters into all finite things, for everything that exists has only a relative, not an absolute reality…. Whatever plane our consciousness may be acting in, both we and the things belonging to that plane are, for the time being, our only realities.”                                                                                                             H.P. Blavatsky

Everything that is, was, and will be, eternally IS, even the countless forms, which are finite and perishable only in their objective, not in their ideal form.

                                                                                                                                 H.P. Blavatsky

“Consciousness is the fundamental thing in existence. It is the energy, the motion, the movement of consciousness and all that is in it. The microcosm and the macrocosm are nothing but consciousness arranging itself.”                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Sri Aurobindo

 

(Power Point 4)

“Now he has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.”                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Albert Einstein

“Time is not at all what it seems to be. It is not flowing in one direction, and the future exists simultaneously with the past.”                                                               Albert Einstein

This can all be understood if you realise that the past, present and future are all available from the present time. The present can be present in the past, the present and the future and alternatively for the other two.

Now, when it comes, to let us say, viewing the past, it is possible to take the view that the vibrational pattern of anything existing in the past, in that particular space, still exists and that anybody viewing remotely that has the capacity to view across a wide spectrum of frequencies, shall we say, for your understanding, is able to see the different patterns i.e. energy patterns, blueprints, ideas that were subsequently manifested into the physical world, even though they have now been, you would say, destroyed, from a physical point of view. This can be seen as a logical and rational explanation even though you may have to stretch to believe that the energetic blueprint still exists.

 

(Power Point 5)

No human being ever learns to live until he has awakened to the dormant powers within him.                          William James

There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there.     Albert Einstein           (Leonardo da Vinci would probably agree.)

Einstein was as much a mystic as a scientist. Was he accessing a higher state when he thought:-      E  =  MC².   He could have alternatively interpreted the equation as:- Energy = Motion of Consciousness²       E  =  MC²        Energy is Consciousness in Motion. Consciousness in motion creates its realities. If you apply this definition to your own volition you may agree that it is equally valid.

How would Sri Aurobindo have interpreted the equation?

“Consciousness is the fundamental thing in existence. It is the energy, the motion, the movement of consciousness and all that is in it. The microcosm and the macrocosm are nothing but consciousness arranging itself.”                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Sri Aurobindo

 

 

(Power Point 6)

George Gershwin – Life is Just a Bowl of Cherries

People are queer, they’re always crowing, scrambling and rushing about;
Why don’t they stop someday, address themselves this way?
Why are we here? Where are we going? It’s time that we found out.
We’re not here to stay; we’re on a short holiday.

Life is just a bowl of cherries.
Don’t take it serious; life’s so mysterious.
You work, you save, you worry so,
But you can’t take your dough when you go, go, go.
So keep repeating it’s the berries,
The strongest oak must fall,
The sweet things in life, to you were just loaned
So how can you lose what you’ve never owned?
Life is just a bowl of cherries,
So live and laugh at it all.

Now if you substitute “experiences” for “cherries” …………..

 

(Power Point 7)

Some consciousnesses simply do not want to accept that they are not, the larger element, shall we say. They do not wish to believe that the vehicles they control, they are controlling in a multi-consciousness capacity. They wish to feel that they are the top of the pyramid. Much as your leaders in every walk of life wish to feel that it is their thoughts, their utterings that prevail.

The only reason you are here is because you are working with others who all chose to work with you.

 

(Power Point 8)

Simply enough put, there are as many kinds of consciousnesses as there are particles and these are combined in infinite fashions. Your consciousness is not one thing like a flashlight, that you possess. It is instead a literally endless conglomeration of points of consciousness, swarming together to form your validity – stamped, as it were, with your identity.

                                                                               Seth:- The Nature of the Psyche – Jane Roberts

 

(Power Point 9)

Every singularity is created from a plurality. The one is always created from the many. Physics will show you that all is built up from the smallest by a process of accretion. Each discrete entity is composed of multiple entities, you might say, whatever you care to examine can be broken down into its many parts and therefore it is the sum of its parts.

So do not think that personality is not the same. Why do we cling to the notion that the self, the soul, the higher consciousness etc. is a self-contained discrete entity when all that your senses perceive are composed of multiple entities, particles, if you wish?

Now, when I am speaking I am speaking as a confluence, a coherence of many minds/consciousnesses/whatever you perceive to be the intelligence or intelligences that are forming these words. And I am speaking these words through an organism that is again formed of many, many parts. Vocal cords powered by lungs kept going by the heart that pumps the blood, all of which composed of millions of cells mediated by a brain, composed of millions of cells as well but also comprising millions of neurons, millions per second of electrical charges moving across the synapses between neurons.

All is multiple, so when you look at what you consider to be a person, a singular, it is a representation of a multiple. It only has a validity in terms of a multiple representation much as a government expressed as a singularity is representative of millions of people and you might say the president is the personality, or how the country is seen depending on how he presents himself and what he says. Then one who views, with no knowledge of the country, believes that he is speaking for his constituents, the word is correct, the constituent parts of the organism.

 

(Power Point 10)

So what is this thing called “I”? The “I” is something that you reserve, something that through your decisions you alter, that you create by virtue of those decisions, by virtue of the direction that you wish to take, in fact your wishes, your desires, your decisions all work together to form the “I”.

The “I” is merely a transient concept or fabrication that is produced when you open the window and peer into the realm of the physical. When seeing the situation that exists, you form an opinion on that situation, then as you are in a position to manipulate an instrument, you take action which alters the situation which you are observing. You learn from the actions you take and become aware of the strength of those actions and from that comes the feeling of power, and as this power is exercised, or this feeling grows through the exercise of decision, so arises the “I”.

The “I” arises from seeing the consequences of your decisions, my action is doing this, my action is causing that, this is ”ME”, this is “I”, this is the power.

Simultaneously, myriad others “looking through the same window”, part of the same conglomeration of consciousness, are experiencing the same as we are and each consider themselves the “I”.

 

(Power Point 11)

So, how is the “I” built up?

What you are doing in each moment is adding yet another layer of render to something, to something that started from nothing. There was nothing there until you painted the first stroke, then it became larger and you added another layer of paint, another colour and light was reflected in a different way. You became immersed in this ever growing pageant of light and you considered it to be real. You no longer considered it to be something you were producing, but if you stopped producing and retraced those steps, what would you be left with. You would be left with nothing. Therefore there would be no “I”

Can you see that is why there is no “I”. There is only the “I” that you continually create and through which you believe you have your existence. The unit of consciousness cannot be aware of itself, it can only be aware of that expression which it creates in conjunction with other units of consciousness. Each unit of consciousness participating in the production of the “I” considers itself to be the “I” and is unaware that the “I” is a co-creation.

 

(Power Point 12)

Now, how you perceive yourself takes on a different aspect when you consider that you do not have a separate, defined self as an inviolable spark of consciousness, you might say. Because we are aware that the instrument is speaking, moving, hearing, feeling the combined impressions of the multiple thoughts that comprise the consciousnesses that are presently focused upon the operation of this instrument, we are in the position of observing the combined thoughts of many as to what should happen next, actually happens. As we are observing we are not aware of the total number of thoughts that are being reflected in what we are observing because as thoughts, you might say,” lock on” in focus, we are not aware of the additional, let us put it this way, we are not aware of the additional in terms of saying, we now have a certain number. We are aware of a slight increase in intensity. If a lot, you might say, tune in, then we are aware of a greater increase in intensity. Just like your own communication channels, depending on the activity being conducted at the time, the focus that is being concentrated upon, thoughts from consciousness then join and leave according to the level of interest and we feel the intensity move up and down.

Now, as to self, there is generally a core of what you might call “die-hard supporters” who attend every game, who are there for every motion, every action and who want to experience every feeling.

 

(Power Point 13)

The stream of human knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality. The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter. We are beginning to suspect that we ought rather to hail it as the creator and governor of this realm.

                                                           Sir James Jeans The Mysterious Universe (1930), 137.

“There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together.

We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind”                                                                                                                                           Max Planck 1944

 Einstein once spoke of the physicist David Bohm as his successor. Bohm introduced concepts of Implicate Order and Explicate Order. Bohm defined explicate order as the order of the physical world. He defined implicate order as the source of explicate order, and as an underlying whole that physical form constantly unfolds out from and enfolds back into.

“Implicate Order” – The realm of thoughts, ideas, patterns, plans and blueprints ever available within infinite potential.

The “past” is available in the “present” and the “future” and likewise for the other two. Time is merely a construct we observe in physical reality.

“Time is not at all what it seems to be. It is not flowing in one direction, and the future exists simultaneously with the past.”                                                           Albert Einstein

 

 

(Power Point 14)

So, where do thoughts come from? Thoughts arise from consciousness. You may say conscious perception equals thought. Thoughts are recorded in like files and therefore are forever open to examination. (Sheldrake’s “Morphogenetic Fields”?) Now in your own language you have phrases such as “bodies of thought”. Think of that particular phrase “body of thought”. You can think to yourself, does this mean that the body consists of thought and/or is it the thoughts that created the body? Or the more popular conception that this just means a conglomeration of thoughts and opinions.

So again, when considering where do thoughts go, then yes, they can go to a recording establishment or they can also be manifested in a reality. A thought becomes a reality especially if you classify the thought as an idea for something. You classify the thought as a product of imagination and then you look at the imagination which is another word, you might say, for thought or idea.

So thoughts are things and become things depending on how much the consciousnesses cooperate in wishing to make a particular thought become a reality. So in answer to the question of where did it go, it can go to storage or it can flow into what you would consider to be, objective reality in this dimension and also into perceptions of realities in other dimensions.

 From the implicate to the explicate.

 

(Power Point 15)

How many consciousnesses can be involved in any one life?

We do not know. The number can vary as we have conjectured before. It can be a few at one time and hundreds of thousands or millions, or whatever you wish to say, we have no idea at any time. This can be allied to one of your radio or television programmes. Are we ever certain at any time how many people are tuning in? When you broadcast information on a certain wavelength, unless there is reciprocity, you have no idea of how many people are actually receiving i.e. tuned into the broadcast. The subject of this discussion is rarely addressed and one would assume it would attract the interest of many consciousnesses. So at this stage the consciousness that normally comprises my influencing entity or conglomeration of consciousness is greatly expanded because of the interest. The information deriving from the experience of a multitude of other consciousness is also being drawn upon. It is as if all conscious beings are connected to every thought in existence, but only those thoughts/activities that resonate with their current focus are perceived and locked onto by those who find them of interest to whatever degree, resulting in a constantly fluctuating mass of interconnected consciousness.

Simply enough put, there are as many kinds of consciousnesses as there are particles and these are combined in infinite fashions. Your consciousness is not one thing like a flashlight, that you possess. It is instead a literally endless conglomeration of points of consciousness, swarming together to form your validity – stamped, as it were, with your identity.

                                                                               Seth:- The Nature of the Psyche – Jane Roberts

How can we give an identity to this sort of constantly fluctuating mass of interconnected consciousness that has never had an identity such as you would recognise. We use a name for convenience but it only applicable in physical reality.

(Power Point 16)

If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.      Nikola Tesla

“Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg likens this multiple universe theory to radio. All around you, there are hundreds of different radio waves being broadcast from distant stations. At any given instant, your office or car or living room is full of these radio waves. However, if you turn on a radio, you can listen to only one frequency at a time; these other frequencies have decohered and are no longer in phase with each other. Each station has a different energy, a different frequency. As a result, your radio can only be tuned to one broadcast at a time. Likewise, in our universe we are “tuned” into the frequency that corresponds to physical reality. (Therefore we can only experience the particular “I” that is being produced by the group of consciousnesses of which we are one.) But there are an infinite number of parallel realities coexisting with us in the same room, although we cannot “tune into” them. Although these worlds are very much alike, each has a different energy. And because each world consists of trillions upon trillions of atoms, this means that the energy difference can be quite large. Since the frequency of these waves is proportional to their energy (by Planck’s law), this means that the waves of each world vibrate at different frequencies and cannot interact anymore. For all intents and purposes, the waves of these various worlds do not interact or influence each other.”
Michio Kaku, Parallel Worlds: A Journey Through Creation, Higher Dimensions, and the Future of the Cosmos

And in all of these “parallel realities” we can focus upon a selected consciousness grouping and experience a different “I”. But that would be the subject of another talk.

 

(Power Point 17)

Rosenblum and Kuttner: “In principle…any two objects that have ever interacted are forever entangled.  The behaviour of one instantaneously influences the other.  An entanglement exists even if the interactions is through each of the objects having interacted with a third object.  In principle, our world has a universal connectedness.”

Entangled Minds

Once upon a time, a thought arose, where it came from no-one knows. Minds saw this thought and liked the idea behind the thought. The thought was about having a certain life in the physical. Many more minds liked the idea of this life in the physical and joined the thought, until there were many, many minds and their thoughts linked together, united in their decision to experience that projected life.

They sorted out a mother and a father and it began. The child was born and was named Joe Public. As Joe’s life progressed other minds were attracted as they saw the events that were planned for this life, and they wanted to be part of it, wanted to experience this life, and as it went along many minds came, and many minds left, having experienced the event that they wished to experience. So, the conglomeration of minds known as  Joe, went along, forever adding and losing minds, but always known as Joe and all those minds that had ever been Joe, ever been a part of Joe, always had the memory of the experience of being Joe. So Joe was a part of many minds and many minds were a part of Joe and so it went on and Joe went on forever, forever changing, forever adding new minds, losing old minds, but was forever Joe, and Joe was forever connected to every other mind that had ever been a part of him. And every other mind who remembered their experience with Joe was always connected to Joe. And so Joe never had a real identity because Joe was a part of the whole of all these minds. And so was every other Joe and every other Joanna. Everything that exists is all a part of everything, a part of the thought world, endless conglomeration of thought, endless conglomerations of consciousness.

 

 

Are there limits to the information which can be accessed. 25th August 2017

It is apparent that you have more knowledge than you care to divulge regarding the relationship between the physical and non-physical. Are you not allowed to pass certain things on?

It is not a question of not being allowed to divulge the information it is more a question of not being thanked for volunteering further information as those that have decided to focus on the physical experience wish to be kept in ignorance of the non-reality of that focus as they have immersed themselves in their imagination and there is a mutual consensus that this is all there is.  When you focus deeply into a reality and you find yourself on the stage then to you that is your only reality. (If the majority of the gestalt consciousness is of that opinion then it is impossible for said information to be transmitted as it is automatically blocked.)

Now, as we have said before, when you are, let us call it, a puppet master, (suggest when reading this that you remember that puppet master is just a simplified way of describing the gestalt consciousness) then you know full well what is happening in the physical because you are guiding the ropes, shall we say, pushing and pulling to effect action within the physical. But you do have the opportunity to turn around and operate another instrument in another reality, or many realities if you wish, and so you are aware that you are capable of doing so. Of course you find that each reality, when you decide to operate in that reality, takes your full focus.

Let us say that you jump into a racing car and you are moving at high speed on a particular circuit then you leap out and jump into another race car on another circuit, again at high speed, and each time you are in the race with many people. Now, are you fully focusing each time on the race you are in with no thought of the other race and the other race track?

Yes.

Yes, because your continued existence in that race demands your full attention. The same applies. (Some gestalts simply want to enjoy their physical experiences in blissful ignorance much as when reading an exciting book if one is informed of the outcome the continuation of the reading experience loses its aura of mystery and suspense) You are fully focusing, e.g., on the pattern of the cheetah, as we described in a previous session. You are watching for the next pattern and recreating it in your imagination because you have already scanned all the information regarding all the cheetahs that ever were and are. This just comes, you might say, instinctively in that you just put that knowledge to work. You might, as we said, tweak it around a little if you feel that there is something else that can be achieved (the present design can be improved upon)…….

If you are the puppet master of the cheetah does not your action depend on what other puppet masters of other cheetahs are going to do? You could be operating a very peaceful cheetah that is happy to lay in the sun or whatever and another puppet master with a cheetah could come along and attack your cheetah therefore your actions , should that happen, will be different than if that puppet master had not operated their cheetah in that manner.

Wherein arises uncertainty and excitement. (The constantly reiterated reason for creating and experiencing physical reality)

Yes, yes.

The reference we just made was to the actual holding of (in) the imagination your idea of a cheetah, yes?

Yes, right.

And of course you are not holding that in isolation. You are holding that within the environment created for the cheetah to exist in and the cheetah will exist with other animals and other cheetahs, yes?

Yes.

So then your puppet master will take the appropriate action when faced with any event that arises, and that is part of the game, to react to the twists and turns, shall we say, of fate. In the same way the driver in the race is reacting to the twists and turns of the race track. But it still takes his full attention.

Identical Twins, One Soul or Two? 17th August 2017

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is interesting how identical twins often lead very similar lives right down to choosing a wife with the same name, having the same number of children, having a dog with the same name, that type of thing. Can you comment on this, is their blueprint very similar?

If you care to think through this conundrum with the knowledge that you already possess you will probably agree that the original plan, the original desire came from a single gestalt (soul) but, as we have said before, not everything is perfect as you can see from what happens in the physical world.

In the case of identical twins do you think that this was already in the plan, shall we say, the point is here that you are also talking the physical process in the division of the egg, shall we say?

Yes.

Depending on how you see this. If you think it was originally planned that there would be identical twins, that is one scenario. If you think that it happened due to a, say, misapplication of  patterning, perhaps, in that only one child was planned, yet it was apparent that there were going to be two from an early point and therefore it was decided to go along with that situation, that would constitute another scenario.

You have mentioned identical twins but you are also aware that most twins are not identical, yes?

Yes.

In which case would you say that the non-identical had separate plans whereas the identical had one plan?

It certainly could be that way.

In which case you probably had separate gestalts for the non-identical plan and a single gestalt for the identical twins, yes?

Yes.

Now do you know of any puppet masters that can operate two puppets at once?

Undoubtedly there will be some.

Do you agree that most gestalts are capable of leading several lives at once?

Yes

So if you have a gestalt faced with two where they thought there was going to be one and if they have reasonably fixed ideas on what it is they want to achieve, then is it likely that the two twins, being identical after all, will also be accessing the identical plan?

I think that, to a certain extent, is borne out where the twins do not remain in the same family, are separated but when they meet up later in life they find that a great many things in their preferences, and life even, are identical.

As we have just said, you already have the knowledge and are now thinking it through for yourself, yes?

Yes.

There are various ways of approaching this. In some cases the identical twins will live basically lives diverse from one another. In other cases these similarities of choice tend to come to the fore. It would be apposite, would you not think, for the connection between the, let us say, unforeseen identical twins to be closer than that planned for ordinary twins seeing as it all started with the one plan in regard to the identical twins.

Could it not have been that the plan was to have identical twins?

Can you give a reason for why you would want to have two of the same, identical twins?

Just for the experience.

Could be, but then would you have two separate gestalts?

Maybe it would be one gestalt operating both.

Which we just referred to…..

But that doesn’t necessarily mean that it was unplanned.

In which case, because both identical twins are connected to the same gestalt, the same thoughts would go to each of the identical twins. Would you call that a greater connection than that of the non-identical twins who are almost certainly operated by separate gestalts?

Yes. The ones operated by a single gestalt would obviously have more similarities.

They share the same thought net, you might say, so they will receive the same thoughts.

In previous posts we referred to the shoal of sardines, they all became aware at the same time which enabled them to all turn at the same time. Now if you were connected to the same thought net would you say that the identical twins would be aware of the thoughts emanating from that net simultaneously?

Yes.

Given that they are in different environments some of those thoughts would be ignored and others would be taken up to suit the situation in which they find themselves.

Yes, because surely the gestalt would recognise that the two situations are different so therefore they would know that some of the thoughts would be relevant to one of the twins but not to the other given the different circumstances.

But they (the gestalt) would still be thinking the same thought and yet even though they know that this one would not be applicable to one, the thought would still be in the thought net.

The thought would still be in the thought net and possibly operated upon by one (twin) and ignored by the other.

Exactly. Even though you (the gestalt) are looking at one (twin) and thinking one thing the other one will pick it up but because it is not applicable to its situation it will be discarded. Then, as we have said before, plans change and what was going to be a single life is now two and it can be very interesting to say “Let’s see what goes on here, let’s compare this. We will let this run its course”. In one case they stay close together, bonded, throughout life. In another case they are allowed to split up but of course they are always connected to the same thought net. So when the idea comes up for a child’s name or a type of dog to buy or whatever then the majority opinion in the gestalt, if there is a belief and all gestalts have beliefs, may have a marked preference for a certain type of dog and therefore both twins are aware of that thought and feeling and take it as their own. The same goes for names, choice of clothing etc.

This all depends on the gestalt recognition, you might say, laziness. It is easier to think one set of thoughts, have one set of beliefs than to try and split yourself into two and operate the two in two different fashions in which case they wouldn’t be identical anymore in their choices would they? Maybe in looks but not in their choices and as you will find there are plenty of identical twins in looks and physical attributes and yet they lead totally different types of lives. Yet when you come across what seems to be a mystery, of twins separated, in different parts of the world, yet seem to be living to the same script, we hope that what we have just outlined can give you some understanding that if you approach it from the point of view of the controlling gestalt it is quite simple to understand.

Thank you very much.

 

Were mediums part of the plan for physical reality? 10th August 2017

Were mediums part of the plan for physical reality?

Would you say that mediums arose due to a gestalt feeling the pain of a fellow gestalt which was fully immersed in the focus of physical reality and deciding to allay the grief of the instrument in the physical via another instrument thereby lessening the feeling in the fellow gestalt by letting the instruments into the secret that you will actually meet again? And so the door was opened a little and a chink of enlightenment was allowed to pour through.

Yes that sounds reasonable.

When it comes to the sort of knowledge that we are passing through do you feel that those who produce such films as Avatar, Star Trek, Ghost, Sixth Sense and many others of this nature are also trying in their own way to put across some form of hope to those who have lost.

Yes.

To spark a thought that perhaps, “I have seen the film but I also know a lady down the road who claims to talk to her husband all the time. I thought that perhaps she was off her rocker, you might say, but now, who knows. In all respects she is perfectly normal and reasonable and logical and quite matter-of –fact when she says, I can communicate. So with the evidence that comes in from various sources continually I can shrug off the cloak of despair as I realise they are waiting for me. They have gone, I am still here but I will meet them again”. What is this but the religion of belief?

Yes.

It is knowing that you are, shall we say, a spirit having a physical experience.

We have gone full circle once more in that if you can get this information out there the majority of people will be able to live their lives through a different prism.  Most people will eventually realise the sanctity of the individual gestalt that is operating through their neighbour. Do you understand?

I think so.

We are saying tolerance. Once you understand that your neighbour ……

Is another spirit operating a physical body.

Yes. And you are both, you might say, puppet masters and it is all make believe. You are all playing the part and that it is a game to experience and enjoy. It can be experienced in a friendly spirit, it doesn’t have to be carried out with animosity and in most cases, if you look around the world, people co-exist quite happily, help each other and are pleased when all are living a comfortable life. Very few set out with the intention of ensuring that others lead a miserable life, they set out with the intention of trying to lead a comfortable life for themselves. If that means by cooperating and making the environment conducive to enjoyment, the environment being their surroundings and their situation, being conducive to peaceful and enjoyable living then they will do so.

After all, all consciousnesses, when it comes down to the selection of ideas, are selecting the ideas that attract them and in most cases these are experiences that are going to be a source of pleasure. In other cases it will be a source of challenge or playing a part in the play where someone has to be the villain. Now if you understand that it all imagination anyway then just like an actor you can be a jolly good villain. If you take a pantomime the children will all boo the baddie and love the goodie and yet you know full well as a parent that the actor playing the baddie is quite a nice old gentleman and when the pantomime is over and everybody gets together, then you have all had a jolly good time , haven’t you?

You can scale that pantomime up to a national feud, shall we say, but then stand back, look at the parties involved, see what is happening and see whether, when the feud is settled, it leads eventually to a more amicable environment for the next set of consciousnesses that wish to experience that particular area of activity.

This is, as far as you are concerned, a continuous soap opera and if you can step away from your lifetime-based conscious understanding and see it merely as, let us say, a holiday resort where you visit at regular intervals in order to enjoy what it has to offer, then expand that to many years and many lives in the same or different physical environments and you will find you are back to your Eastern understanding of the wheel of life, shall we say.

 

 

 

 

 

 

A Point to Ponder. Are We Living in a Computer Program? 4th August 2017

A Point to Ponder

Are we living in a computer program?

See: The Simulation Hypothesis, Fairwind Films, Youtube

There is a popular hypothesis that we are living in a gigantic computer simulation. This depiction of reality, or not, seems to be a physically centric version of your statements regarding our reality.

Many of our scientists, technologists and others in the last few years and some before have been speculating as to whether physical reality is actually a simulated reality and that we all may be living in a computer simulation, let us say, in that there is some controlling being or beings that are producing what to us is reality whereas in effect we are merely ciphers being manipulated by others of which we know not. According to your previous analogies, with reference to the cheetah for example, then it seems to me that the so-called simulation is actually a continuous refreshment of the elements of a particular reality either by perfection of design or evolution by allowing various differences to emerge or simply experimentation. The reason for this would be that the original idea was continually being expanded upon so as to ensure continuity of experiences that are available for those that wish to participate in them. Now could you just give us your thoughts on how this reality is produced? We understand that it is imagination, we understand the artist connotation, we understand the getting together but as far as we are concerned we have to use physical terms so we use “computer and pixels”. When it comes down to a thought world we can understand that it can be pictures in the mind and you say there is no space, no time and no distance to travel so instantaneous. How can we have any idea apart from relating back to the origin of the ”Big Bang” and imagining consciousness compressed into a single point? Although this has been a rambling statement I would appreciate your clarification to help us grasp more fully the actual position.

As we stated in our last session it is impossible for you to grasp the attributes of the non-physical in terms of the physical. In relation to the analysis as expressed in the question/statement then yes you could look at the totality as being just a point, but how do you see that point? You see that as a point in space or a point surrounded by space so how could you possibly envisage a point with no space surrounding it? What would that point be? Because you couldn’t envisage a point if it didn’t have space surrounding it. Can you see that?

Yes.

This is one of the problems in trying to get these explanations over to you. The human being has grappled with this enigma ever since they set foot on the earth. Ever since they were first imagined, and we are no further forward, simply because there is nothing to stand outside of. How do you envisage that? There is, let us say, ”nothing”, but you are fully aware that out of the seeming “nothing” comes everything. You are aware that the waves/particles emerge from the “void” and disappear back into the void, yet you have no idea of what the void is. You must remember that we are but one step removed from you from where we are speaking at this present time and you must also be aware that, just as we don our goggles or diving suit, you might say, to focus upon physical reality, we also have to block out other information which does not pertain to this. If we need to go beyond that we would have to do this in a step- down procedure and that is not as easy as it may seem.

So it is very difficult for us to give you information that will enable you to get a clear picture of how this happens. Let it suffice to say that, as you outline in your statement, the idea first arose in the imagination, it was embellished upon and expanded and added to until the world as you know it formed. So the parallel runs along with the “Big Bang”. It started, it expanded, it coalesced and various evolutionary paths came into being and it resulted in the position in which you find yourself at the present time.

Now you are indeed correct in restating, as in the cheetah analogy, let us say, that the original idea is continually expanded upon because you couldn’t have a cheetah that resembled a kangaroo as you would wonder “where the hell did that come from”? “Did they cross it with a kangaroo? “There aren’t any kangaroos where the cheetahs are and vice versa” “How did that happen”? That would set off a whole line of mystery and enquiry as to the nature of reality in which you exist and as we have said before, that would rather spoil the show, wouldn’t it?  So everything is moved forward by degree. It is just like a soap opera, we keep putting in new events, new angles, new things to look at and make sure that you can understand how they have been arrived at, how they have developed. Through technical, through biological, whatever.

This has got to be simply so that you can feel that you are able to discover, to advance, to create. The creative urge from our side is expressed in each reality, in some more than others. Some are, what you might say, holiday realities, rest homes, “let’s just enjoy ourselves here and leave the creative bit behind”. In other realities the creative ability is given full rein and so then you advance at a certain rate. Each reality will have these elements where you will advance at a faster rate in some than others. In some cases you will decide that you have exhausted that line for now and move on to another one. Alternatively you may decide to change the parameters and we will have to do that in such a way that the story line is changed, much as in a soap when an actor decides to leave the show he has to be written out and a replacement theme adopted so that the continuity is preserved.

So when you talk about computer simulations, the reason the word simulation is used is because the writers are wary of saying this is a product of the imagination because although they create the virtual realities they find it difficult to acknowledge that whatever is creating the simulation has to be separate from the simulation and so they infer that it is advanced beings or aliens or something else, of course the word “being” or “alien” denotes another “pseudo human”, shall we say, even though that is not alluded to, rather than attribute it to an invisible consciousness.

Once you come out with the idea that everything is just consciousness, which has been stated by many of your most eminent scientists and philosophers, it generally hasn’t been taken any further as to how did consciousness arise. It has been put forward that consciousness is an epiphenomenon of the brain, say, then the word ”mind” comes in and yet what is “mind”? Is mind part of the brain? Some say yes, some say no. What controls the mind? So we are back to the consciousness again aren’t we? This is an area where mathematics are rather left behind. Mathematics are part of the underlying structure of physical reality but do not have any relevance in non-physical reality and if you don’t have any mathematics, and you don’t have any senses, apart from your meditative connections, shall we say, then how do you measure this thing called consciousness?

So this area is steered away from. If you can’t use maths and you can’t use your laboratory what can you use? You can only use your thoughts and if concepts emerge from thoughts they are usually treated as philosophical theories because scientific theories generally need to be underpinned by mathematics to prove the theory and with consciousness that cannot be done.

This is one area in which, as we stated before, it is going to be impossible to give you an answer. So, by all means, treat it as a computer simulation but instead of having your being, alien, programmer programming this so called computer, even though that may be a 2D pixelated universe, why not substitute that by consciousness imagining, in their mind, and we cannot expand that because you cannot understand mind.

Near death experiencers, when outside the body, what are they using? They are not using the brain, are they? They are using the mind, but they cannot express themselves until they are back in the body and therefore what does one say. How is the brain involved? It is seemingly not involved and yet it (the experience) could only be expressed by using the brain. Using the brain as an intermediary factor to operate the voice box in order to tell of the experiences.

So how does one show that the mind is separate? Now to some degree we are proving the point as we speak except for the fact that some might turn around and say that this person may be able to formulate all this in view of what he has learned over the years. Perhaps he is using his innate imagination to form these concepts and voice them in a relatively seamless manner.

We will leave it there as we simply cannot give you anything which you will be able to understand due to the restrictions of the terms available to us

Non-Locality, No Space, No Time.

Now when it comes to non-locality, this is something that is spoken of but is simply impossible to envisage. You are equipped with senses to see space, you are totally immersed in a time based world, so how can you understand a situation where everybody is surrounded by their own creation, be it co-creation or not, when we say ”own’ it encompasses all of those engaged in the particular reality in which you find yourself. The same thing applies to time, just as space expands in all directions around you so does time. Your mind expands back into the past and then forward into the future as you simply apply a system of measurement to it. So you have a measurement which you can measure in terms of your both written and perceived history and in your speculation as to the future that you can put a relative degree of understanding upon 1800 and the year zero, the year 400, the year 1100. You can place buildings there, you can place names there and when you go forward you only have a vague idea, but you can, to some degree again, speculate as to forms of transport and other forms of energy etc. some through extrapolation some through pure speculation.

But when it comes to bringing yourself down to non-locality, no  ”where” no “space”, what is it? Because even if you think that you see what is all around you and you are a point of awareness you still have to think in terms of “space’ because in order to see you must see light reflection and therefore you will measure the distance the light reflects from. Yet when you see in your mind, where is the “space” then? Do you think you see in your brain or do you think that you see in your mind? Now near death experience, out-of-body experience don’t really shed any further light on the subject as normally you are seeing other environments within you present physical reality. It is only in dreams that you find yourself in other realities and even then, have you created those from other scenarios that you have been browsing and simply transformed them into something you understand? Or, have you been out-of-body during the sleep state and just found yourself in a strange house or a strange location with people dressed in other forms? Once more, were these other people’s dreams, other people’s fantasies, mind creations? It is all very difficult.

So how do we find some form of analogy that enables you to get some glimmer of understanding with regard to “no space”?

So we came up with this idea that just as science reduces everything you see to a single origin, be it particle or wave and then suggests that everything is composed of numbers of these entities, so let us do the same thing to space. And the easiest way we can find is to say to you, imagine that your kilometre is only a millimetre, but use the same sense perceptions that you are already using and so reduce 5000 kilometres to 5000 millimetres. That immediately brings the object from 5000 kilometres away to 5 metres away, which means, you are already there, instantaneously. Now you have heard through various transmissions etc. that you just think of somewhere and you’re there, but how about you think of somewhere and it’s here? In your mind.

Just as this reality is in your mind, in your imagination, so is all the reality that you think is at a distance from you. You know of it and so you can envisage it. That enables you to imagine yourself “being there” when you think it is only 5 metres away, “Here I am standing there right in front of it”. But then, has it come to you? This applies also to the creations of others. If they are all existing in the same space as you are, all consciousnesses exist in the same space as you do, this is where your concept of the “One”, “All That Is “, “God” comes from, and yet it is made up of innumerable awarenesses. So is it the sum of the parts or is it a whole that operates through its parts? I don’t suppose you or we will know this, ever, and so we for one, have given up, as we have said before. We just rejoice in the fact that “we are” and can explore our creativity.

But you are still looking and so if you feel that everything is in the one place and you can understand that, then all the imagined realities of consciousness are in the one place also. Just as the pictures on your computer screen stack up, one behind the other, and as you click along the top headings they come to prominence, imagine that to infinity. All the pictures are there, on that flat screen, merely different configurations of the pixels.

So imagine, as we have said before, that the quantum wave background, if you wish, we will make things up here as nobody can give you any better definition, just responds to any reality and can itself, each wave in the background, respond in infinite ways. Just as the block of stone holds all potential designs then the wave background holds all potential realities, so as you focus on the one you intend to see it simply appears around you and also if another says ”Come and join me here, this is a reality I have created. I am on a balcony of a coffee bar high in the hills of Capri with a fabulous view over the Mediterranean”, and they send you the thought form. You say “why not” and you sit in the seat opposite. We can say that you project a thought form through space or you can say that the reality is in the same place as every other reality. Within your imagination you join in the co-created imaginative reality of your friend and as you are both many consciousnesses acting as one, as we have said before, then the two of you, groups of consciousness, then enjoy a nice coffee and a chat overlooking the Mediterranean. But you haven’t gone anywhere, you have simply produced the reality that you enjoy and you have got lost in your own creation, lost in your drama only this time it is not a drama of course, and you enjoy the reality of it all and why should that not be?

So, you could apply the same thing to time. You could take the year and make it 1/100 of a second. Now wouldn’t that simplify the life review? So easy to understand? What you see as a year others see as 1/100 of a second, shall we say, so your 70 years becomes 0.7 seconds and so your life flashes through and you see all the events. Of course you can understand that because if you look at all the sites on the computer which your search engines can scan in a fraction of a second then it wouldn’t be too hard for a computer to scan the major events of your life in a fraction of a second, flash them onto the screen in quick succession and if you were quick enough to comprehend each one then you would see as fast as the computer could present. You would also understand the information presented. (The feelings of yourself and the other parties etc.)

Now you can marry the two together of course. As you well know, time and space are relative and time and speed of motion are relative so if you come down to instantaneous, then no time has passed. So when your friend sends you the thought of the creation she has made in Capri, it comes instantaneously, you accept instantaneously and so time and space have simply disappeared. You are all in the one place, enjoying all your realities in no time and simply moving from one reality, one area of enjoyment, discovery, entertainment, thrill, challenge to another, whatever reality you care to join into we will say, rather than envisage, because all consciousnesses are grouping together to create the realities of their choice. You simply have to ask whether you can join in and if you are prepared to abide by the rules of that reality and you are acceptable to the majority that is within that reality then you can join in.

It is simply sometimes, many times, getting to know that these realities exist. So you go from one to the other, you learn of others, you exchange notes, you exchange ideas and because the thoughts are continually moving around, too many to mention, in the main you will only pick up associated thoughts but sometimes they are so tenuously associated that they introduce you to new areas that branch off shall we say. Whereas you were thinking along one particular line you suddenly find yourself thinking along another particular line and according realities surface into your awareness.

Have we been reasonably clear? Can you understand to some degree the notion of no time, no space, non-locality, everything simply being encompassed in one small point? Much like the Big Bang Theory of course. It all arose, sooooooooh it is speculated, from a singular little point.

We have just demonstrated that not only can the universe arise from a single point but so can all realities. Can you see the comparison?

Thank you.