Talk given by David Ingman to the Sydney Theosophical Society in September 2016 and given to the Sydney Group of the Scientific and Medical Network in August 2017.

 (This talk involved the use of power point and as such the below is split into the relevant power point pages.)

(Power Point 1)

Talk:- The Interconnectedness of Universal Consciousness.
The Self as a projection of multiple individual Consciousnesses.

(Power Point 2)

“How far is the one mind a collection of quasi-independent perceptual minds integrated physically in large measure by temporal concurrence of experience?”

Sir Charles Sherrington 1857 – 1952 Neurologist, Nobel Prize winner, President of the Royal Society

We hear much of the total interconnectedness of everything, we hear that we are all one and we hear that we are all each other. As many “particles” have to come together to manifest in a physical form so many “minds” have to come together to manifest a “self”, an impression of individuality.

 

(Power Point 3)

Everything in the Universe, throughout all its kingdoms, is conscious: i.e., endowed with a consciousness of its own kind and on its own plane of perception.

                                                                                                                               H.P. Blavatsky

Yet, the Universe is real enough to the conscious beings in it, which are as unreal as it is itself.                                                                                                                    H.P. Blavatsky

“Illusion is an element which enters into all finite things, for everything that exists has only a relative, not an absolute reality…. Whatever plane our consciousness may be acting in, both we and the things belonging to that plane are, for the time being, our only realities.”                                                                                                             H.P. Blavatsky

Everything that is, was, and will be, eternally IS, even the countless forms, which are finite and perishable only in their objective, not in their ideal form.

                                                                                                                                 H.P. Blavatsky

“Consciousness is the fundamental thing in existence. It is the energy, the motion, the movement of consciousness and all that is in it. The microcosm and the macrocosm are nothing but consciousness arranging itself.”                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Sri Aurobindo

 

(Power Point 4)

“Now he has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.”                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Albert Einstein

“Time is not at all what it seems to be. It is not flowing in one direction, and the future exists simultaneously with the past.”                                                               Albert Einstein

This can all be understood if you realise that the past, present and future are all available from the present time. The present can be present in the past, the present and the future and alternatively for the other two.

Now, when it comes, to let us say, viewing the past, it is possible to take the view that the vibrational pattern of anything existing in the past, in that particular space, still exists and that anybody viewing remotely that has the capacity to view across a wide spectrum of frequencies, shall we say, for your understanding, is able to see the different patterns i.e. energy patterns, blueprints, ideas that were subsequently manifested into the physical world, even though they have now been, you would say, destroyed, from a physical point of view. This can be seen as a logical and rational explanation even though you may have to stretch to believe that the energetic blueprint still exists.

 

(Power Point 5)

No human being ever learns to live until he has awakened to the dormant powers within him.                          William James

There comes a time when the mind takes a higher plane of knowledge but can never prove how it got there.     Albert Einstein           (Leonardo da Vinci would probably agree.)

Einstein was as much a mystic as a scientist. Was he accessing a higher state when he thought:-      E  =  MC².   He could have alternatively interpreted the equation as:- Energy = Motion of Consciousness²       E  =  MC²        Energy is Consciousness in Motion. Consciousness in motion creates its realities. If you apply this definition to your own volition you may agree that it is equally valid.

How would Sri Aurobindo have interpreted the equation?

“Consciousness is the fundamental thing in existence. It is the energy, the motion, the movement of consciousness and all that is in it. The microcosm and the macrocosm are nothing but consciousness arranging itself.”                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Sri Aurobindo

 

 

(Power Point 6)

George Gershwin – Life is Just a Bowl of Cherries

People are queer, they’re always crowing, scrambling and rushing about;
Why don’t they stop someday, address themselves this way?
Why are we here? Where are we going? It’s time that we found out.
We’re not here to stay; we’re on a short holiday.

Life is just a bowl of cherries.
Don’t take it serious; life’s so mysterious.
You work, you save, you worry so,
But you can’t take your dough when you go, go, go.
So keep repeating it’s the berries,
The strongest oak must fall,
The sweet things in life, to you were just loaned
So how can you lose what you’ve never owned?
Life is just a bowl of cherries,
So live and laugh at it all.

Now if you substitute “experiences” for “cherries” …………..

 

(Power Point 7)

Some consciousnesses simply do not want to accept that they are not, the larger element, shall we say. They do not wish to believe that the vehicles they control, they are controlling in a multi-consciousness capacity. They wish to feel that they are the top of the pyramid. Much as your leaders in every walk of life wish to feel that it is their thoughts, their utterings that prevail.

The only reason you are here is because you are working with others who all chose to work with you.

 

(Power Point 8)

Simply enough put, there are as many kinds of consciousnesses as there are particles and these are combined in infinite fashions. Your consciousness is not one thing like a flashlight, that you possess. It is instead a literally endless conglomeration of points of consciousness, swarming together to form your validity – stamped, as it were, with your identity.

                                                                               Seth:- The Nature of the Psyche – Jane Roberts

 

(Power Point 9)

Every singularity is created from a plurality. The one is always created from the many. Physics will show you that all is built up from the smallest by a process of accretion. Each discrete entity is composed of multiple entities, you might say, whatever you care to examine can be broken down into its many parts and therefore it is the sum of its parts.

So do not think that personality is not the same. Why do we cling to the notion that the self, the soul, the higher consciousness etc. is a self-contained discrete entity when all that your senses perceive are composed of multiple entities, particles, if you wish?

Now, when I am speaking I am speaking as a confluence, a coherence of many minds/consciousnesses/whatever you perceive to be the intelligence or intelligences that are forming these words. And I am speaking these words through an organism that is again formed of many, many parts. Vocal cords powered by lungs kept going by the heart that pumps the blood, all of which composed of millions of cells mediated by a brain, composed of millions of cells as well but also comprising millions of neurons, millions per second of electrical charges moving across the synapses between neurons.

All is multiple, so when you look at what you consider to be a person, a singular, it is a representation of a multiple. It only has a validity in terms of a multiple representation much as a government expressed as a singularity is representative of millions of people and you might say the president is the personality, or how the country is seen depending on how he presents himself and what he says. Then one who views, with no knowledge of the country, believes that he is speaking for his constituents, the word is correct, the constituent parts of the organism.

 

(Power Point 10)

So what is this thing called “I”? The “I” is something that you reserve, something that through your decisions you alter, that you create by virtue of those decisions, by virtue of the direction that you wish to take, in fact your wishes, your desires, your decisions all work together to form the “I”.

The “I” is merely a transient concept or fabrication that is produced when you open the window and peer into the realm of the physical. When seeing the situation that exists, you form an opinion on that situation, then as you are in a position to manipulate an instrument, you take action which alters the situation which you are observing. You learn from the actions you take and become aware of the strength of those actions and from that comes the feeling of power, and as this power is exercised, or this feeling grows through the exercise of decision, so arises the “I”.

The “I” arises from seeing the consequences of your decisions, my action is doing this, my action is causing that, this is ”ME”, this is “I”, this is the power.

Simultaneously, myriad others “looking through the same window”, part of the same conglomeration of consciousness, are experiencing the same as we are and each consider themselves the “I”.

 

(Power Point 11)

So, how is the “I” built up?

What you are doing in each moment is adding yet another layer of render to something, to something that started from nothing. There was nothing there until you painted the first stroke, then it became larger and you added another layer of paint, another colour and light was reflected in a different way. You became immersed in this ever growing pageant of light and you considered it to be real. You no longer considered it to be something you were producing, but if you stopped producing and retraced those steps, what would you be left with. You would be left with nothing. Therefore there would be no “I”

Can you see that is why there is no “I”. There is only the “I” that you continually create and through which you believe you have your existence. The unit of consciousness cannot be aware of itself, it can only be aware of that expression which it creates in conjunction with other units of consciousness. Each unit of consciousness participating in the production of the “I” considers itself to be the “I” and is unaware that the “I” is a co-creation.

 

(Power Point 12)

Now, how you perceive yourself takes on a different aspect when you consider that you do not have a separate, defined self as an inviolable spark of consciousness, you might say. Because we are aware that the instrument is speaking, moving, hearing, feeling the combined impressions of the multiple thoughts that comprise the consciousnesses that are presently focused upon the operation of this instrument, we are in the position of observing the combined thoughts of many as to what should happen next, actually happens. As we are observing we are not aware of the total number of thoughts that are being reflected in what we are observing because as thoughts, you might say,” lock on” in focus, we are not aware of the additional, let us put it this way, we are not aware of the additional in terms of saying, we now have a certain number. We are aware of a slight increase in intensity. If a lot, you might say, tune in, then we are aware of a greater increase in intensity. Just like your own communication channels, depending on the activity being conducted at the time, the focus that is being concentrated upon, thoughts from consciousness then join and leave according to the level of interest and we feel the intensity move up and down.

Now, as to self, there is generally a core of what you might call “die-hard supporters” who attend every game, who are there for every motion, every action and who want to experience every feeling.

 

(Power Point 13)

The stream of human knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality. The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter. We are beginning to suspect that we ought rather to hail it as the creator and governor of this realm.

                                                           Sir James Jeans The Mysterious Universe (1930), 137.

“There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together.

We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind”                                                                                                                                           Max Planck 1944

 Einstein once spoke of the physicist David Bohm as his successor. Bohm introduced concepts of Implicate Order and Explicate Order. Bohm defined explicate order as the order of the physical world. He defined implicate order as the source of explicate order, and as an underlying whole that physical form constantly unfolds out from and enfolds back into.

“Implicate Order” – The realm of thoughts, ideas, patterns, plans and blueprints ever available within infinite potential.

The “past” is available in the “present” and the “future” and likewise for the other two. Time is merely a construct we observe in physical reality.

“Time is not at all what it seems to be. It is not flowing in one direction, and the future exists simultaneously with the past.”                                                           Albert Einstein

 

 

(Power Point 14)

So, where do thoughts come from? Thoughts arise from consciousness. You may say conscious perception equals thought. Thoughts are recorded in like files and therefore are forever open to examination. (Sheldrake’s “Morphogenetic Fields”?) Now in your own language you have phrases such as “bodies of thought”. Think of that particular phrase “body of thought”. You can think to yourself, does this mean that the body consists of thought and/or is it the thoughts that created the body? Or the more popular conception that this just means a conglomeration of thoughts and opinions.

So again, when considering where do thoughts go, then yes, they can go to a recording establishment or they can also be manifested in a reality. A thought becomes a reality especially if you classify the thought as an idea for something. You classify the thought as a product of imagination and then you look at the imagination which is another word, you might say, for thought or idea.

So thoughts are things and become things depending on how much the consciousnesses cooperate in wishing to make a particular thought become a reality. So in answer to the question of where did it go, it can go to storage or it can flow into what you would consider to be, objective reality in this dimension and also into perceptions of realities in other dimensions.

 From the implicate to the explicate.

 

(Power Point 15)

How many consciousnesses can be involved in any one life?

We do not know. The number can vary as we have conjectured before. It can be a few at one time and hundreds of thousands or millions, or whatever you wish to say, we have no idea at any time. This can be allied to one of your radio or television programmes. Are we ever certain at any time how many people are tuning in? When you broadcast information on a certain wavelength, unless there is reciprocity, you have no idea of how many people are actually receiving i.e. tuned into the broadcast. The subject of this discussion is rarely addressed and one would assume it would attract the interest of many consciousnesses. So at this stage the consciousness that normally comprises my influencing entity or conglomeration of consciousness is greatly expanded because of the interest. The information deriving from the experience of a multitude of other consciousness is also being drawn upon. It is as if all conscious beings are connected to every thought in existence, but only those thoughts/activities that resonate with their current focus are perceived and locked onto by those who find them of interest to whatever degree, resulting in a constantly fluctuating mass of interconnected consciousness.

Simply enough put, there are as many kinds of consciousnesses as there are particles and these are combined in infinite fashions. Your consciousness is not one thing like a flashlight, that you possess. It is instead a literally endless conglomeration of points of consciousness, swarming together to form your validity – stamped, as it were, with your identity.

                                                                               Seth:- The Nature of the Psyche – Jane Roberts

How can we give an identity to this sort of constantly fluctuating mass of interconnected consciousness that has never had an identity such as you would recognise. We use a name for convenience but it only applicable in physical reality.

(Power Point 16)

If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.      Nikola Tesla

“Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg likens this multiple universe theory to radio. All around you, there are hundreds of different radio waves being broadcast from distant stations. At any given instant, your office or car or living room is full of these radio waves. However, if you turn on a radio, you can listen to only one frequency at a time; these other frequencies have decohered and are no longer in phase with each other. Each station has a different energy, a different frequency. As a result, your radio can only be tuned to one broadcast at a time. Likewise, in our universe we are “tuned” into the frequency that corresponds to physical reality. (Therefore we can only experience the particular “I” that is being produced by the group of consciousnesses of which we are one.) But there are an infinite number of parallel realities coexisting with us in the same room, although we cannot “tune into” them. Although these worlds are very much alike, each has a different energy. And because each world consists of trillions upon trillions of atoms, this means that the energy difference can be quite large. Since the frequency of these waves is proportional to their energy (by Planck’s law), this means that the waves of each world vibrate at different frequencies and cannot interact anymore. For all intents and purposes, the waves of these various worlds do not interact or influence each other.”
― Michio Kaku, Parallel Worlds: A Journey Through Creation, Higher Dimensions, and the Future of the Cosmos

And in all of these “parallel realities” we can focus upon a selected consciousness grouping and experience a different “I”. But that would be the subject of another talk.

 

(Power Point 17)

Rosenblum and Kuttner: “In principle…any two objects that have ever interacted are forever entangled.  The behaviour of one instantaneously influences the other.  An entanglement exists even if the interactions is through each of the objects having interacted with a third object.  In principle, our world has a universal connectedness.”

Entangled Minds

Once upon a time, a thought arose, where it came from no-one knows. Minds saw this thought and liked the idea behind the thought. The thought was about having a certain life in the physical. Many more minds liked the idea of this life in the physical and joined the thought, until there were many, many minds and their thoughts linked together, united in their decision to experience that projected life.

They sorted out a mother and a father and it began. The child was born and was named Joe Public. As Joe’s life progressed other minds were attracted as they saw the events that were planned for this life, and they wanted to be part of it, wanted to experience this life, and as it went along many minds came, and many minds left, having experienced the event that they wished to experience. So, the conglomeration of minds known as  Joe, went along, forever adding and losing minds, but always known as Joe and all those minds that had ever been Joe, ever been a part of Joe, always had the memory of the experience of being Joe. So Joe was a part of many minds and many minds were a part of Joe and so it went on and Joe went on forever, forever changing, forever adding new minds, losing old minds, but was forever Joe, and Joe was forever connected to every other mind that had ever been a part of him. And every other mind who remembered their experience with Joe was always connected to Joe. And so Joe never had a real identity because Joe was a part of the whole of all these minds. And so was every other Joe and every other Joanna. Everything that exists is all a part of everything, a part of the thought world, endless conglomeration of thought, endless conglomerations of consciousness.

 

 

It is apparent that you have more knowledge than you care to divulge regarding the relationship between the physical and non-physical. Are you not allowed to pass certain things on?

It is not a question of not being allowed to divulge the information it is more a question of not being thanked for volunteering further information as those that have decided to focus on the physical experience wish to be kept in ignorance of the non-reality of that focus as they have immersed themselves in their imagination and there is a mutual consensus that this is all there is.  When you focus deeply into a reality and you find yourself on the stage then to you that is your only reality. (If the majority of the gestalt consciousness is of that opinion then it is impossible for said information to be transmitted as it is automatically blocked.)

Now, as we have said before, when you are, let us call it, a puppet master, (suggest when reading this that you remember that puppet master is just a simplified way of describing the gestalt consciousness) then you know full well what is happening in the physical because you are guiding the ropes, shall we say, pushing and pulling to effect action within the physical. But you do have the opportunity to turn around and operate another instrument in another reality, or many realities if you wish, and so you are aware that you are capable of doing so. Of course you find that each reality, when you decide to operate in that reality, takes your full focus.

Let us say that you jump into a racing car and you are moving at high speed on a particular circuit then you leap out and jump into another race car on another circuit, again at high speed, and each time you are in the race with many people. Now, are you fully focusing each time on the race you are in with no thought of the other race and the other race track?

Yes.

Yes, because your continued existence in that race demands your full attention. The same applies. (Some gestalts simply want to enjoy their physical experiences in blissful ignorance much as when reading an exciting book if one is informed of the outcome the continuation of the reading experience loses its aura of mystery and suspense) You are fully focusing, e.g., on the pattern of the cheetah, as we described in a previous session. You are watching for the next pattern and recreating it in your imagination because you have already scanned all the information regarding all the cheetahs that ever were and are. This just comes, you might say, instinctively in that you just put that knowledge to work. You might, as we said, tweak it around a little if you feel that there is something else that can be achieved (the present design can be improved upon)…….

If you are the puppet master of the cheetah does not your action depend on what other puppet masters of other cheetahs are going to do? You could be operating a very peaceful cheetah that is happy to lay in the sun or whatever and another puppet master with a cheetah could come along and attack your cheetah therefore your actions , should that happen, will be different than if that puppet master had not operated their cheetah in that manner.

Wherein arises uncertainty and excitement. (The constantly reiterated reason for creating and experiencing physical reality)

Yes, yes.

The reference we just made was to the actual holding of (in) the imagination your idea of a cheetah, yes?

Yes, right.

And of course you are not holding that in isolation. You are holding that within the environment created for the cheetah to exist in and the cheetah will exist with other animals and other cheetahs, yes?

Yes.

So then your puppet master will take the appropriate action when faced with any event that arises, and that is part of the game, to react to the twists and turns, shall we say, of fate. In the same way the driver in the race is reacting to the twists and turns of the race track. But it still takes his full attention.

Identical twins. One Soul or Two?

It is interesting how identical twins often lead very similar lives right down to choosing a wife with the same name, having the same number of children, having a dog with the same name, that type of thing. Can you comment on this, is their blueprint very similar?

If you care to think through this conundrum with the knowledge that you already possess you will probably agree that the original plan, the original desire came from a single gestalt (soul) but, as we have said before, not everything is perfect as you can see from what happens in the physical world.

In the case of identical twins do you think that this was already in the plan, shall we say, the point is here that you are also talking the physical process in the division of the egg, shall we say?

Yes.

Depending on how you see this. If you think it was originally planned that there would be identical twins, that is one scenario. If you think that it happened due to a, say, misapplication of  patterning, perhaps, in that only one child was planned, yet it was apparent that there were going to be two from an early point and therefore it was decided to go along with that situation, that would constitute another scenario.

You have mentioned identical twins but you are also aware that most twins are not identical, yes?

Yes.

In which case would you say that the non-identical had separate plans whereas the identical had one plan?

It certainly could be that way.

In which case you probably had separate gestalts for the non-identical plan and a single gestalt for the identical twins, yes?

Yes.

Now do you know of any puppet masters that can operate two puppets at once?

Undoubtedly there will be some.

Do you agree that most gestalts are capable of leading several lives at once?

Yes

So if you have a gestalt faced with two where they thought there was going to be one and if they have reasonably fixed ideas on what it is they want to achieve, then is it likely that the two twins, being identical after all, will also be accessing the identical plan?

I think that, to a certain extent, is borne out where the twins do not remain in the same family, are separated but when they meet up later in life they find that a great many things in their preferences, and life even, are identical.

As we have just said, you already have the knowledge and are now thinking it through for yourself, yes?

Yes.

There are various ways of approaching this. In some cases the identical twins will live basically lives diverse from one another. In other cases these similarities of choice tend to come to the fore. It would be apposite, would you not think, for the connection between the, let us say, unforeseen identical twins to be closer than that planned for ordinary twins seeing as it all started with the one plan in regard to the identical twins.

Could it not have been that the plan was to have identical twins?

Can you give a reason for why you would want to have two of the same, identical twins?

Just for the experience.

Could be, but then would you have two separate gestalts?

Maybe it would be one gestalt operating both.

Which we just referred to…..

But that doesn’t necessarily mean that it was unplanned.

In which case, because both identical twins are connected to the same gestalt, the same thoughts would go to each of the identical twins. Would you call that a greater connection than that of the non-identical twins who are almost certainly operated by separate gestalts?

Yes. The ones operated by a single gestalt would obviously have more similarities.

They share the same thought net, you might say, so they will receive the same thoughts.

In previous posts we referred to the shoal of sardines, they all became aware at the same time which enabled them to all turn at the same time. Now if you were connected to the same thought net would you say that the identical twins would be aware of the thoughts emanating from that net simultaneously?

Yes.

Given that they are in different environments some of those thoughts would be ignored and others would be taken up to suit the situation in which they find themselves.

Yes, because surely the gestalt would recognise that the two situations are different so therefore they would know that some of the thoughts would be relevant to one of the twins but not to the other given the different circumstances.

But they (the gestalt) would still be thinking the same thought and yet even though they know that this one would not be applicable to one, the thought would still be in the thought net.

The thought would still be in the thought net and possibly operated upon by one (twin) and ignored by the other.

Exactly. Even though you (the gestalt) are looking at one (twin) and thinking one thing the other one will pick it up but because it is not applicable to its situation it will be discarded. Then, as we have said before, plans change and what was going to be a single life is now two and it can be very interesting to say “Let’s see what goes on here, let’s compare this. We will let this run its course”. In one case they stay close together, bonded, throughout life. In another case they are allowed to split up but of course they are always connected to the same thought net. So when the idea comes up for a child’s name or a type of dog to buy or whatever then the majority opinion in the gestalt, if there is a belief and all gestalts have beliefs, may have a marked preference for a certain type of dog and therefore both twins are aware of that thought and feeling and take it as their own. The same goes for names, choice of clothing etc.

This all depends on the gestalt recognition, you might say, laziness. It is easier to think one set of thoughts, have one set of beliefs than to try and split yourself into two and operate the two in two different fashions in which case they wouldn’t be identical anymore in their choices would they? Maybe in looks but not in their choices and as you will find there are plenty of identical twins in looks and physical attributes and yet they lead totally different types of lives. Yet when you come across what seems to be a mystery, of twins separated, in different parts of the world, yet seem to be living to the same script, we hope that what we have just outlined can give you some understanding that if you approach it from the point of view of the controlling gestalt it is quite simple to understand.

Thank you very much.

 

Were mediums part of the plan for physical reality?

Would you say that mediums arose due to a gestalt feeling the pain of a fellow gestalt which was fully immersed in the focus of physical reality and deciding to allay the grief of the instrument in the physical via another instrument thereby lessening the feeling in the fellow gestalt by letting the instruments into the secret that you will actually meet again? And so the door was opened a little and a chink of enlightenment was allowed to pour through.

Yes that sounds reasonable.

When it comes to the sort of knowledge that we are passing through do you feel that those who produce such films as Avatar, Star Trek, Ghost, Sixth Sense and many others of this nature are also trying in their own way to put across some form of hope to those who have lost.

Yes.

To spark a thought that perhaps, “I have seen the film but I also know a lady down the road who claims to talk to her husband all the time. I thought that perhaps she was off her rocker, you might say, but now, who knows. In all respects she is perfectly normal and reasonable and logical and quite matter-of –fact when she says, I can communicate. So with the evidence that comes in from various sources continually I can shrug off the cloak of despair as I realise they are waiting for me. They have gone, I am still here but I will meet them again”. What is this but the religion of belief?

Yes.

It is knowing that you are, shall we say, a spirit having a physical experience.

We have gone full circle once more in that if you can get this information out there the majority of people will be able to live their lives through a different prism.  Most people will eventually realise the sanctity of the individual gestalt that is operating through their neighbour. Do you understand?

I think so.

We are saying tolerance. Once you understand that your neighbour ……

Is another spirit operating a physical body.

Yes. And you are both, you might say, puppet masters and it is all make believe. You are all playing the part and that it is a game to experience and enjoy. It can be experienced in a friendly spirit, it doesn’t have to be carried out with animosity and in most cases, if you look around the world, people co-exist quite happily, help each other and are pleased when all are living a comfortable life. Very few set out with the intention of ensuring that others lead a miserable life, they set out with the intention of trying to lead a comfortable life for themselves. If that means by cooperating and making the environment conducive to enjoyment, the environment being their surroundings and their situation, being conducive to peaceful and enjoyable living then they will do so.

After all, all consciousnesses, when it comes down to the selection of ideas, are selecting the ideas that attract them and in most cases these are experiences that are going to be a source of pleasure. In other cases it will be a source of challenge or playing a part in the play where someone has to be the villain. Now if you understand that it is all imagination anyway then just like an actor you can be a jolly good villain. If you take a pantomime the children will all boo the baddie and love the goodie and yet you know full well as a parent that the actor playing the baddie is quite a nice old gentleman and when the pantomime is over and everybody gets together, then you have all had a jolly good time , haven’t you?

You can scale that pantomime up to a national feud, shall we say, but then stand back, look at the parties involved, see what is happening and see whether, when the feud is settled, it leads eventually to a more amicable environment for the next set of consciousnesses that wish to experience that particular area of activity.

This is, as far as you are concerned, a continuous soap opera and if you can step away from your lifetime-based conscious understanding and see it merely as, let us say, a holiday resort where you visit at regular intervals in order to enjoy what it has to offer, then expand that to many years and many lives in the same or different physical environments and you will find you are back to your Eastern understanding of the wheel of life, shall we say.

 

 

 

 

 

 

A Point to Ponder

Are we living in a computer program?

See: The Simulation Hypothesis, Fairwind Films, Youtube

There is a popular hypothesis that we are living in a gigantic computer simulation. This depiction of reality, or not, seems to be a physically centric version of your statements regarding our reality.

Many of our scientists, technologists and others in the last few years and some before have been speculating as to whether physical reality is actually a simulated reality and that we all may be living in a computer simulation, let us say, in that there is some controlling being or beings that are producing what to us is reality whereas in effect we are merely ciphers being manipulated by others of which we know not. According to your previous analogies, with reference to the cheetah for example, then it seems to me that the so-called simulation is actually a continuous refreshment of the elements of a particular reality either by perfection of design or evolution by allowing various differences to emerge or simply experimentation. The reason for this would be that the original idea was continually being expanded upon so as to ensure continuity of experiences that are available for those that wish to participate in them. Now could you just give us your thoughts on how this reality is produced? We understand that it is imagination, we understand the artist connotation, we understand the getting together but as far as we are concerned we have to use physical terms so we use “computer and pixels”. When it comes down to a thought world we can understand that it can be pictures in the mind and you say there is no space, no time and no distance to travel so instantaneous. How can we have any idea apart from relating back to the origin of the ”Big Bang” and imagining consciousness compressed into a single point? Although this has been a rambling statement I would appreciate your clarification to help us grasp more fully the actual position.

As we stated in our last session it is impossible for you to grasp the attributes of the non-physical in terms of the physical. In relation to the analysis as expressed in the question/statement then yes you could look at the totality as being just a point, but how do you see that point? You see that as a point in space or a point surrounded by space so how could you possibly envisage a point with no space surrounding it? What would that point be? Because you couldn’t envisage a point if it didn’t have space surrounding it. Can you see that?

Yes.

This is one of the problems in trying to get these explanations over to you. The human being has grappled with this enigma ever since they set foot on the earth. Ever since they were first imagined, and we are no further forward, simply because there is nothing to stand outside of. How do you envisage that? There is, let us say, ”nothing”, but you are fully aware that out of the seeming “nothing” comes everything. You are aware that the waves/particles emerge from the “void” and disappear back into the void, yet you have no idea of what the void is. You must remember that we are but one step removed from you from where we are speaking at this present time and you must also be aware that, just as we don our goggles or diving suit, you might say, to focus upon physical reality, we also have to block out other information which does not pertain to this. If we need to go beyond that we would have to do this in a step- down procedure and that is not as easy as it may seem.

So it is very difficult for us to give you information that will enable you to get a clear picture of how this happens. Let it suffice to say that, as you outline in your statement, the idea first arose in the imagination, it was embellished upon and expanded and added to until the world as you know it formed. So the parallel runs along with the “Big Bang”. It started, it expanded, it coalesced and various evolutionary paths came into being and it resulted in the position in which you find yourself at the present time.

Now you are indeed correct in restating, as in the cheetah analogy, let us say, that the original idea is continually expanded upon because you couldn’t have a cheetah that resembled a kangaroo as you would wonder “where the hell did that come from”? “Did they cross it with a kangaroo? “There aren’t any kangaroos where the cheetahs are and vice versa” “How did that happen”? That would set off a whole line of mystery and enquiry as to the nature of reality in which you exist and as we have said before, that would rather spoil the show, wouldn’t it?  So everything is moved forward by degree. It is just like a soap opera, we keep putting in new events, new angles, new things to look at and make sure that you can understand how they have been arrived at, how they have developed. Through technical, through biological, whatever.

This has got to be simply so that you can feel that you are able to discover, to advance, to create. The creative urge from our side is expressed in each reality, in some more than others. Some are, what you might say, holiday realities, rest homes, “let’s just enjoy ourselves here and leave the creative bit behind”. In other realities the creative ability is given full rein and so then you advance at a certain rate. Each reality will have these elements where you will advance at a faster rate in some than others. In some cases you will decide that you have exhausted that line for now and move on to another one. Alternatively you may decide to change the parameters and we will have to do that in such a way that the story line is changed, much as in a soap when an actor decides to leave the show he has to be written out and a replacement theme adopted so that the continuity is preserved.

So when you talk about computer simulations, the reason the word simulation is used is because the writers are wary of saying this is a product of the imagination because although they create the virtual realities they find it difficult to acknowledge that whatever is creating the simulation has to be separate from the simulation and so they infer that it is advanced beings or aliens or something else, of course the word “being” or “alien” denotes another “pseudo human”, shall we say, even though that is not alluded to, rather than attribute it to an invisible consciousness.

Once you come out with the idea that everything is just consciousness, which has been stated by many of your most eminent scientists and philosophers, it generally hasn’t been taken any further as to how did consciousness arise. It has been put forward that consciousness is an epiphenomenon of the brain, say, then the word ”mind” comes in and yet what is “mind”? Is mind part of the brain? Some say yes, some say no. What controls the mind? So we are back to the consciousness again aren’t we? This is an area where mathematics are rather left behind. Mathematics are part of the underlying structure of physical reality but do not have any relevance in non-physical reality and if you don’t have any mathematics, and you don’t have any senses, apart from your meditative connections, shall we say, then how do you measure this thing called consciousness?

So this area is steered away from. If you can’t use maths and you can’t use your laboratory what can you use? You can only use your thoughts and if concepts emerge from thoughts they are usually treated as philosophical theories because scientific theories generally need to be underpinned by mathematics to prove the theory and with consciousness that cannot be done.

This is one area in which, as we stated before, it is going to be impossible to give you an answer. So, by all means, treat it as a computer simulation but instead of having your being, alien, programmer programming this so called computer, even though that may be a 2D pixelated universe, why not substitute that by consciousness imagining, in their mind, and we cannot expand that because you cannot understand mind.

Near death experiencers, when outside the body, what are they using? They are not using the brain, are they? They are using the mind, but they cannot express themselves until they are back in the body and therefore what does one say. How is the brain involved? It is seemingly not involved and yet it (the experience) could only be expressed by using the brain. Using the brain as an intermediary factor to operate the voice box in order to tell of the experiences.

So how does one show that the mind is separate? Now to some degree we are proving the point as we speak except for the fact that some might turn around and say that this person may be able to formulate all this in view of what he has learned over the years. Perhaps he is using his innate imagination to form these concepts and voice them in a relatively seamless manner.

We will leave it there as we simply cannot give you anything which you will be able to understand due to the restrictions of the terms available to us

Non-Locality, No Space, No Time.

Now when it comes to non-locality, this is something that is spoken of but is simply impossible to envisage. You are equipped with senses to see space, you are totally immersed in a time based world, so how can you understand a situation where everybody is surrounded by their own creation, be it co-creation or not, when we say ”own’ it encompasses all of those engaged in the particular reality in which you find yourself. The same thing applies to time, just as space expands in all directions around you so does time. Your mind expands back into the past and then forward into the future as you simply apply a system of measurement to it. So you have a measurement which you can measure in terms of your both written and perceived history and in your speculation as to the future that you can put a relative degree of understanding upon 1800 and the year zero, the year 400, the year 1100. You can place buildings there, you can place names there and when you go forward you only have a vague idea, but you can, to some degree again, speculate as to forms of transport and other forms of energy etc. some through extrapolation some through pure speculation.

But when it comes to bringing yourself down to non-locality, no  ”where” no “space”, what is it? Because even if you think that you see what is all around you and you are a point of awareness you still have to think in terms of “space’ because in order to see you must see light reflection and therefore you will measure the distance the light reflects from. Yet when you see in your mind, where is the “space” then? Do you think you see in your brain or do you think that you see in your mind? Now near death experience, out-of-body experience don’t really shed any further light on the subject as normally you are seeing other environments within you present physical reality. It is only in dreams that you find yourself in other realities and even then, have you created those from other scenarios that you have been browsing and simply transformed them into something you understand? Or, have you been out-of-body during the sleep state and just found yourself in a strange house or a strange location with people dressed in other forms? Once more, were these other people’s dreams, other people’s fantasies, mind creations? It is all very difficult.

So how do we find some form of analogy that enables you to get some glimmer of understanding with regard to “no space”?

So we came up with this idea that just as science reduces everything you see to a single origin, be it particle or wave and then suggests that everything is composed of numbers of these entities, so let us do the same thing to space. And the easiest way we can find is to say to you, imagine that your kilometre is only a millimetre, but use the same sense perceptions that you are already using and so reduce 5000 kilometres to 5000 millimetres. That immediately brings the object from 5000 kilometres away to 5 metres away, which means, you are already there, instantaneously. Now you have heard through various transmissions etc. that you just think of somewhere and you’re there, but how about you think of somewhere and it’s here? In your mind.

Just as this reality is in your mind, in your imagination, so is all the reality that you think is at a distance from you. You know of it and so you can envisage it. That enables you to imagine yourself “being there” when you think it is only 5 metres away, “Here I am standing there right in front of it”. But then, has it come to you? This applies also to the creations of others. If they are all existing in the same space as you are, all consciousnesses exist in the same space as you do, this is where your concept of the “One”, “All That Is “, “God” comes from, and yet it is made up of innumerable awarenesses. So is it the sum of the parts or is it a whole that operates through its parts? I don’t suppose you or we will know this, ever, and so we for one, have given up, as we have said before. We just rejoice in the fact that “we are” and can explore our creativity.

But you are still looking and so if you feel that everything is in the one place and you can understand that, then all the imagined realities of consciousness are in the one place also. Just as the pictures on your computer screen stack up, one behind the other, and as you click along the top headings they come to prominence, imagine that to infinity. All the pictures are there, on that flat screen, merely different configurations of the pixels.

So imagine, as we have said before, that the quantum wave background, if you wish, we will make things up here as nobody can give you any better definition, just responds to any reality and can itself, each wave in the background, respond in infinite ways. Just as the block of stone holds all potential designs then the wave background holds all potential realities, so as you focus on the one you intend to see it simply appears around you and also if another says ”Come and join me here, this is a reality I have created. I am on a balcony of a coffee bar high in the hills of Capri with a fabulous view over the Mediterranean”, and they send you the thought form. You say “why not” and you sit in the seat opposite. We can say that you project a thought form through space or you can say that the reality is in the same place as every other reality. Within your imagination you join in the co-created imaginative reality of your friend and as you are both many consciousnesses acting as one, as we have said before, then the two of you, groups of consciousness, then enjoy a nice coffee and a chat overlooking the Mediterranean. But you haven’t gone anywhere, you have simply produced the reality that you enjoy and you have got lost in your own creation, lost in your drama only this time it is not a drama of course, and you enjoy the reality of it all and why should that not be?

So, you could apply the same thing to time. You could take the year and make it 1/100 of a second. Now wouldn’t that simplify the life review? So easy to understand? What you see as a year others see as 1/100 of a second, shall we say, so your 70 years becomes 0.7 seconds and so your life flashes through and you see all the events. Of course you can understand that because if you look at all the sites on the computer which your search engines can scan in a fraction of a second then it wouldn’t be too hard for a computer to scan the major events of your life in a fraction of a second, flash them onto the screen in quick succession and if you were quick enough to comprehend each one then you would see as fast as the computer could present. You would also understand the information presented. (The feelings of yourself and the other parties etc.)

Now you can marry the two together of course. As you well know, time and space are relative and time and speed of motion are relative so if you come down to instantaneous, then no time has passed. So when your friend sends you the thought of the creation she has made in Capri, it comes instantaneously, you accept instantaneously and so time and space have simply disappeared. You are all in the one place, enjoying all your realities in no time and simply moving from one reality, one area of enjoyment, discovery, entertainment, thrill, challenge to another, whatever reality you care to join into we will say, rather than envisage, because all consciousnesses are grouping together to create the realities of their choice. You simply have to ask whether you can join in and if you are prepared to abide by the rules of that reality and you are acceptable to the majority that is within that reality then you can join in.

It is simply sometimes, many times, getting to know that these realities exist. So you go from one to the other, you learn of others, you exchange notes, you exchange ideas and because the thoughts are continually moving around, too many to mention, in the main you will only pick up associated thoughts but sometimes they are so tenuously associated that they introduce you to new areas that branch off shall we say. Whereas you were thinking along one particular line you suddenly find yourself thinking along another particular line and according realities surface into your awareness.

Have we been reasonably clear? Can you understand to some degree the notion of no time, no space, non-locality, everything simply being encompassed in one small point? Much like the Big Bang Theory of course. It all arose, sooooooooh it is speculated, from a singular little point.

We have just demonstrated that not only can the universe arise from a single point but so can all realities. Can you see the comparison?

Thank you.

(See also:-  June 3rd 2018 Science Discovers Consciousness)